ASU vs. MCC Really?

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Hi everyone,

What is the real difference between a nursing degree from ASU and MCC in terms of getting a job, quality of education and perception of other nurses? I am only applying to ASU, for the primary reason that I think I can finish faster or at least as quickly and graduate with a BSN. I already have a Masters in Health Admin. so I really don't want to go on for more schooling, so either way AD or BSN, I am done. I just want to be an RN. However, is having a BSN going to help me get a job in critical care? Will I get more respect with a BSN or be perceived as being better prepared? I am wondering if it is a mistake just to apply to the one program.

Thanks for indulging all of my questions!

I'm sure there is some sort of difference, but that was just one Senior Nurse's opinion.

Maybe there is no difference between the students who actually make it through the two nursing programs, but what about the drop out rates or the failed NCLEX scores? (I have no clue if there are any differences, but it would be interesting to know.) It was just hard for me to understand that students could get into a nursing program (and make it through to the end) with a minimun 2.0 prereq GPA. No other requirements, you just get thrown onto a wait list after you recieve your final C.

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I'm sure there is some sort of difference, but that was just one Senior Nurse's opinion.

Maybe there is no difference between the students who actually make it through the two nursing programs, but what about the drop out rates or the failed NCLEX scores? (I have no clue if there are any differences, but it would be interesting to know.) It was just hard for me to understand that students could get into a nursing program (and make it through to the end) with a minimun 2.0 prereq GPA. No other requirements, you just get thrown onto a wait list after you recieve your final C.

The standards are horrendously low - and getting worse every semester. But there is surprisingly little difference between the ADNs and BSNs I come across - one would think there is a difference...

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Progressive Tele.

Ok Michican man, what program does it only take 2 yrs to get a ADN RN ? Dont forget how long it takes to take he Pre-Reqs, which is usally 2 yrs.... So that 2 yr ADN prgrams is NOW 4 yrs, just like the BSN.... So what time difference's are there??? NONE...

If you can do it in the same amount of time, go for it! BSN usually takes 4 years traditionally, ADN 2 years time.

I'm not in the field yet so I cannot comment. I always am a proponent for more education and experience :)

Michigan Man 09

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Progressive Tele.

One of the biggest forifice I keep hearing from people is the ADN program only takes 2 yrs and the BSN takes 4 yrs... Why do people believe that? What, the 2 yrs to take your pre-req courses at the Community colleges doesn't count ??? The ADN and BSN degress takes the same amount of time. One if the biggest differences is, the BSN students do not have to fight to get into class,s since they already know what class's they are going to take the first two years. The ADN student have to fight to get into thier pre-req courses, OR have the Community collage change the Pre-Req or Co-Reqs for the nursing programs....

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I'm sure there is some sort of difference, but that was just one Senior Nurse's opinion.

Maybe there is no difference between the students who actually make it through the two nursing programs, but what about the drop out rates or the failed NCLEX scores? (I have no clue if there are any differences, but it would be interesting to know.) It was just hard for me to understand that students could get into a nursing program (and make it through to the end) with a minimun 2.0 prereq GPA. No other requirements, you just get thrown onto a wait list after you recieve your final C.

Forgot to mention - community colleges in AZ have higher NCLEX passage rates.

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I am externing at Mayo in ICU this summer and I have heard it is an excellent program!

Have you started this program yet? If so, can you tell me how you like it and how the application proces went to get in?

Thanks!!:D

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Specializes in Pediatric ICU.

I'm currently working at Phoenix Children's in the PICU and there are an equal number of BSN and ADN nurses working. It makes no difference to my co-workers whether I have one or the other. Most of the time you cannot tell when working with another RN unless they make a point of where they attended school.

As far as critical care goes, I was hired right out of school. They do hire externs but those positions are few and far between. ADN vs. BSN for critical care (at least in the setting that I've seen) makes no difference. What kind of nurse are you? Are you the type that's always learning, questioning, and searching for new and better ways to be a better nurse? Or, are you the type that does the job with as little effort as possible and is counting the minutes before your shift is over? I believe that is the difference.

Of course, education is extremely important. Most hospitals will reimburse or outright pay for you to advance your education. It benefits THEM for you to be trained at a higher level. I plan on getting my BSN and then my masters. It will only make me a better nurse in the long run.

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