ASU Nursing Program

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So basically the advisor told me that I needed a 3.6 GPA or higher. But after the winter classes I'm taking I might have a 3.553 and she said the lowest that got in was a 3.583 with a 100% on the NET. Is anyone in the program now? Is it worth taking my classes over?

thank you, stopnik:bowingpur

a couple more questions if you let me...

I am going for ASU because their tuition is the lowest. somehow Im scared of getting any sorts of loans.

so, if I wanna go for master degree in the future,lets say in the other state, degrees from Grand Canyon and U of Phoenix will be considered OK? (I dont wanna limit myself and waste my time..)

thank you again:nuke:

My opinions reflect the beliefs of one person - me! So no flames, please...

I think cost is the primary factor in a nursing degree. I would not accrue a huge amount of debt to become an RN. So ASU or one of the Maricopa programs is the best bet in my opinion as far as value is concerned. Unless, of course, you needed to accrue debt due to family reasons (no second income, etc.).

Your question (above) seems to be asking about the relative prestige of Grand Canyon or U of Phoenix outside of AZ? Grand Canyon is a solid local program. University of Phoenix is a crappy diploma mill. Yet, that shouldn't limit prospects in other states. Unless you are trying to be the Director of Nursing at an ultra-prestigious institution, where you get your degree shouldn't matter too much. Nursing is a lot like teaching - where you go to school is not that important for 95% of jobs - just having the BSN/MSN is the important thing. It is different in other fields - I have worked for companies that would not recognize a University of Phoenix MBA...but nursing is a whole different ball of wax.

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Specializes in CNA.
Well...unlike a lot of people on this part of allnurses I'm an RN. I have personally worked at several hospitals in the Valley. Banner pays no difference. Where I am now pays .50 per hour more. If you get your Masters you get another $1.00. VA also pays about $1.00 more per hour. So the difference is minimal. If you want to get into administration, an advanced degree is more important. As far as who I personally know - I work with all sorts of nurses, majority of whom have a BSN.

The minimal difference is because everyone is doing the same job, right?

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The minimal difference is because everyone is doing the same job, right?

Absolutely. Once you finish school and then hospital orientation you will suddenly find yourself thinking, "well, I guess this is it." Other than an occassional one hour break off the floor for a mandatory class - you will be a working nurse. Doing the same job. On the same unit. As everyone else. Nothing will change until you switch units/area (a nice thing about being an RN, in my opinion). Maybe you will mix it up with some committee work on a day-off. Unless you pursue a non-floor nursing job - an RN is an RN is an RN. Work will not vary all that much beyond the standard variability found where you work. Attitudes towards the ADN come and go depending on the nursing shortage.

I've read through these types of threads a lot over the years. In my opinion (i.e.: no flames, please), there is no difference between an RN with an ADN or BSN. I've met good ADN(s) and good BSN(s). And I've met plenty of bad ones, too - of both ilk. Some people have written that ADN(s) have more practical experience and BSN(s) less so. Others that BSN(s) are better suited for management due to "nursing leadership" classes. Horse crap...everyone is basically the same - differences are 99% due to personality and intelligence - not educational differences.

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I'm one of the people that chose to go the ADN route as well. I thought about going to ASU or Grand Canyon but under the advice of three different RN managers chose to go through an ADN program. I also figured if I really needed a BSN I'd let my new job pay for it while I worked as an RN. The ADN route was the quickest way to an RN when I started (even though I already had several of the BSN pre-req's completed due to a BS I already have) and I needed to start working to help with family finances.

Now that I am an RN (one of the few who post here as well) I can say I'm so glad I went through the MCC system. There is absolutely NO difference with how a BSN RN and an ADN RN are treated or given assignments! It's all in how well you do your job. A lot of my coworkers have gone on to further their educations and the hospital has paid for it! No extra student loans or anything, PLUS they're working as an RN at the time. If you really want to go into leadership a BSN doesn't really do you any good anyway, you usually need a MSN from what I've seen. There are several RN to MSN programs available if your goal is management. I personally am considering going into FNP or becoming a midwife, both are MSN programs and I'll end up just zipping through my BSN on the way to my MSN. I've already got a BS in another field, I've had plenty of management training. I really didn't feel I needed that BSN after my name to validate me as an RN. I feel my work speaks for itself and from the feedback I've gotten, my managers agree.

If you're wondering about other states, yes there are some states where it matters if you're a BSN or an ADN. But this is an Arizona forum so most answers here apply only to Arizona.

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I'm one of the people that chose to go the ADN route as well. I thought about going to ASU or Grand Canyon but under the advice of three different RN managers chose to go through an ADN program. I also figured if I really needed a BSN I'd let my new job pay for it while I worked as an RN. The ADN route was the quickest way to an RN when I started (even though I already had several of the BSN pre-req's completed due to a BS I already have) and I needed to start working to help with family finances.

Now that I am an RN (one of the few who post here as well) I can say I'm so glad I went through the MCC system. There is absolutely NO difference with how a BSN RN and an ADN RN are treated or given assignments! It's all in how well you do your job. A lot of my coworkers have gone on to further their educations and the hospital has paid for it! No extra student loans or anything, PLUS they're working as an RN at the time. If you really want to go into leadership a BSN doesn't really do you any good anyway, you usually need a MSN from what I've seen. There are several RN to MSN programs available if your goal is management. I personally am considering going into FNP or becoming a midwife, both are MSN programs and I'll end up just zipping through my BSN on the way to my MSN. I've already got a BS in another field, I've had plenty of management training. I really didn't feel I needed that BSN after my name to validate me as an RN. I feel my work speaks for itself and from the feedback I've gotten, my managers agree.

If you're wondering about other states, yes there are some states where it matters if you're a BSN or an ADN. But this is an Arizona forum so most answers here apply only to Arizona.

Very well put. BTW, if you already have an undergrad degree Grand Canyon will let you straight into their MSN program without the BSN. Not sure if that is just for their nursing leadership/education track or if it also applies to FNP.

I thought I would originally do the NP route. Now probably not. I just can't reconcile myself to doing the same job as an MD for 25% of the pay...also, ASU's switch to making students get a doctorate along with the NP was just as big of a disincentive.

Funny about how few RNs post. Sometimes this part of allnurses is like the blind leading the blind...

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Funny about how few RNs post. Sometimes this part of allnurses is like the blind leading the blind...

LOLOL, couldn't have said it better myself.:yeah:

I'm still trying to figure out which way I want to go as far as an advanced degree. As an RN I've come to realize that a BSN really doesn't make a difference, an RN is an RN is an RN... and if I want to advance it won't help me either, I'll need a Masters in one area or another. I love floor nursing, but realize I can't do it forever so I'm looking into areas where I can advance. I thought about CRNA, but just can't commit to full-time school again. We'll see, one thing I love about nursing is that the possibilities are endless! There's always a place where someone will feel like everything clicks, and there's so much room for advancement!

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Thanks. I probably should get on the maricopa waiting list. It's just that I want a bachlors degree at some point to have something to show for ya know? plus i think you might get paid more with a BSN? perhaps I'm wrong though. Also, they are building another building right next to the ASU downtown one, I read that they are expanding? So then maybe they will get more spaces?

Mayo Hospital pays 60 cents more an hour for a BSN so it isn't much. I know this first hand from someone I worked with that just got a job there in October 2008. St Joes has a CARE program where a BSN is one measure towards higher pay (but you need other measures to qualify and it is only after 1 year you can even apply and only twice a year) but not a flat rate for the BSN. I graduated with my RN in Washington State and there most places pay $1/hr for a BSN so it does vary.

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