working for free - page 2
I am on staff at a local hospital in the cardiac stepdown unit on a PRN basis. I recently began working for an agency ( just at one hospital) one or two days a week. No one ever gets lunch or... Read More
Apr 21, '02caduca, thanks for the insightful and informative reply. Can you post the number here for all of us?
Apr 24, '02they really that anal about 15 minutes or so there?? that is really anal sorry to say guys.......
we are lucky here, if we at any time find that we wont be able to make it for a lunchbreak here which can be from 30 mins to 45 mins for lunch we can easily ask the num if we could just work straight through and leave earlier as if taking a later lunch.......this works well, some wards you are even given the choice if wanting to break or leave early.........casual aussie attitude i must say!
of course there are those frequent situations that you find that you cant stop for a meakbreak and that you still cant get out early despite all your intentions (it happens as we all know!) but thats cool here too, you mention it to them and the supervisor does not judge you and will happily sign on the extra time without a derogatory speech........well, can depend on the hospital at times!
what i hate most about meal skipping is the drop in our blood sugar, the docs come in and ask about patient x's input/output, bsl, general intake etc etc.....i once snarled at one and said 'what about my intake, my output, my bsl!!'.....he laughed, left then came back with a toasted sandwich and a juice for me which was much appreciated. :angel2: and those patients that take note that you have barely stopped all day and they become concerned about you they are also :angel2: i think! i have had some try to give me their lunch lol thats sooooooo sweet! :kiss
all in all though i try not to miss my break, why should i........
Apr 24, '02I go in at least 15 minutes before my shift to copy my assignment, check the kardexes/charts, etc. -- I do this for ME -- to get myself organized so I can take report on time. Anything after that -- I expect the hospital to pay for. If I miss lunch, I mark that down on my time card and always get paid for it. Ditto with staying late to catch up. My manager has never once questioned any of my overtime....ever. I'm not a volunteer -- I'm working as a nurse for the money. I will not work for free.
Apr 25, '02originally posted by socrates soul
they really that anal about 15 minutes
: and those patients that take note that you have barely stopped all day and they become concerned about you they are also :angel2: i think! i have had some try to give me their lunch lol thats sooooooo sweet! :kiss
May 24, '02NancyRN,
I apologize for taking so long to get back to all of you- it has been awhile since I've had time to download like I do here- the place to call to retrieve the money for services rendered to your agency is the Federal Labor Board. Call your local office and ask to speak to a representative about a violation in Federal Labor law. They will do an anonymous intake and then follow with an investigation (audit) to retrieve you money. It works.
May 25, '02I had myhouse supe tell me the other night that if I wasn't finished with my work by midnight, to punch out and then go back to the floor to finish.
I said HUH??????
Didn't punch out til 0120 tonight...had a code at 2250, go back to my wing at 2320, started my medicare charting <let's not talk about the aide that didn't show up til nearly 1800, the effect of the full moon on the 3 new admits, 2 with dementia, one of those with rubber legs that kept trying to climb OOB, and the lady who has had diarrhea for two days that turned bloody at midnight> I did my charting, got the vitals the aide didn't <damn>, filled out a transfer sheet incase nights had to transefer said GI Bleed to the hosp (Doc hadn't called back by the time I left)
Anyone says anything to me i'm going to ask them just how much time per night I am expected to Donate, and may I have that in writing.
May 28, '02Joy, good thinking- I doubt anyone would put it in writing though! Here's a good answer for the House Supervisor, "I appreciate the offer to clock out earlier, but I would never want to put the hospital or agency in the legal risk that would cause because I need to continue working right now".
May 28, '02Great suggestion caduca!
Just keep reciting your mantra, "I do not work for free". Beleive me, neither does the Dr., manager, or any other staff member!
Sep 22, '04I have seen nurses clock out early (their scheduled quit time) and then work another hour or longer. I don't, but I also have been questioned why I seem to take longer to do similar work. Get some backbone ladies!
Sep 23, '04Why should we work for free? If I was getting out late and it was not my fault, I would absolutely expect to be paid- including any time I had to spend fighting to get my time card signed. If the house sup refused to sign my time card, I would ask them to stay right there while I called my agency to let them know I was leaving the facility at that time and that Nancy Nurse the House Sup was refusing to sign for my OT. If the house sup refuses to stay with you, I would call from the nurses station and ask a charge nurse to vouch that you were leaving late.
The problem with this, as always in nursing, is in being the first or only one to stand up. A facility can make a nurse a "do not return" for any reason they like. So the squeaky wheel might get the DNR instead of the grease if nurses don't stand together.
Best policy, of course, is always to tell your charge or house sup during the shift if you're not able to take a break. They might refuse to pay if you did not notify them.