planning to move to canada ... part II - page 3

hey guys, haven't been here for a while...but just to let you guys know that I had a face to face interview yesterday with my canadian employer and it was tough three people in the panel.. ... Read More

  1. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from Fiona59
    From what I remember, in the UK you head into school at age 4 and have an option to leave at 16, but if you want to go onto higher education/university you remain in school until age 18.

    Pretty similar to North America.
    Yep roughly that some may start at age 5 as it all goes on DOB
  2. by   lenjoy03
    For dopey and dopier, since we just have the same curriculum, there's a posibility that I still have to take a bridging program!?
  3. by   dopey&dopier
    Lenjoy03,

    CNO has given two options...

    (1) The CNO feels that I have to complete an additional nursing edication that included theoretical/clinical elements to be able to meet the CNO's baccalaureate program requirement ... These elements were Pharmacology, Health Assessment, Technology, Gerontology, Computers, Cultural Context Practice Standards and Legal/ Ethical/Issues

    I did argue with my assessor as to how they came up with these elements when clearly some of them are included in my nursing curriculum....She said that these subjects which we have covered back home did not apply to Canada as their Nursing is different from ours....

    (2) To provide them with the job descriptions of my current and previous jobs and course description/outline of the courses that I have done... CNO also informed me that because of my years of experience in nursing there won't be a problem and that I should just submit what they asked for...

    I chose the 2nd option as it will take me more than 6 months to satisfy their first requirement....

    Hope this helps!!





  4. by   lenjoy03
    I see... so there's a posibility that nurses who will apply there dont have to undergo the bridging program if they have the required clinical experience? Am I right? Because from what I've read, they require 1,912 clinical experience. I just dont know if I understand it right that that given clinical requirement is applicable to our clinical experience here in the Philippines.
  5. by   kokokoko
    Quote from dopey&dopier
    Lenjoy03,

    CNO has given two options...

    (1) The CNO feels that I have to complete an additional nursing edication that included theoretical/clinical elements to be able to meet the CNO's baccalaureate program requirement ... These elements were Pharmacology, Health Assessment, Technology, Gerontology, Computers, Cultural Context Practice Standards and Legal/ Ethical/Issues

    I did argue with my assessor as to how they came up with these elements when clearly some of them are included in my nursing curriculum....She said that these subjects which we have covered back home did not apply to Canada as their Nursing is different from ours....

    I thought it was your gradeschool and highschool studies that are incomplete.. how come they require you to take up those subjects? did they tell you exactly that it was your gradeschool/hs or it's your BSN degree that has the problem...? haha.. i hope you get me..
  6. by   dopey&dopier


    dear ctatatcute,

    we share the same contention, one of the few things that i argued with my assessor....if you guys only knew....i composed a heart-felt email and sent it to her...

    "as stated on your letter saying that i didnt spend a total of 12 years of grade school and high school education, so does this mean that my training and education in nursing is irrelevant to my application and to your assessment?
    if what is important to my application for registration is the prerequisite for my baccalaureate program, why am i being asked to complete additional nursing education when this belongs to the tertiary level?"
    and the response was
    " because of the difference in the entry level of the bscn you completed and the required level of an ontario bscn, your program was not equivalent. we have in no way have disregarded the additional education or experience you completed, hence we are providing you with option #2."

    so there you go....it's something i have to abide by...

    i was really disappointed with the result...cuz i have friend who applied beforehand....she was not successful with her initial application with cno also...in her case, she said that it was her nursing education that was the problem and not her primary and secondary education (she's also from the philippines, and we all spent 10 years in grade school and high school).

    so i thought that i'd be ok considering the im a product of a good nursing school not to mention my years of experience in nursing....
  7. by   dopey&dopier
    Dear Lenjoy03,

    [FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Hi!!!

    My required RN Clinical Practice are: 200 hours clinical and 200 hours practicum/consolidation practicum

    CNO has taken everything into account!

    Clinical experience, courses taken after your basic nursing program, etc. they had reviewed all my documents for 10 weeks. According to their assessment My primary and secondary education was the only issue.

    Again and I emphasize, this is just my experience...others might have a different result...

    I had a look at their Booklet, it seems that the requirements they ask of me to complete fell under the category of Additinal Education requiredfor nurses who have not worked in the last five years and have completed their nursing program more than 5 years ago

    For now, my dream of living and working in Canada is on hold and it is all up to the Board of Registration...



    dopey & -ier
  8. by   kokokoko
    thanks dopey&dopier, I guess it's a case to case basis.. I hope I wouldn't have a problem considering I came from a good nursing school but since I only have 10 years of gradeschool and HS (and there's nothing I can do about that) hope it will still be ok... oh well...

    how about your immigration? what did you process first? your visa or your CNO registration?
  9. by   dopey&dopier
    dear ctatacute,

    i do hope you'd be luckier than i am!!

    like in my previous posts i got the job first!! prior to finding an employer, i have already submitted my application for registration with cno...

    to start the immigration process/application for a work permit you'll need:

    letter from cno
    job offer letter
    human resources and social development canada confirmation (your employer will apply this for you)

    unfortunately, im still trying to get hold of the first requirement, so it has to wait....luckily as i was told by my agent, my job is secured as for now... but for how long, i don't know!!!
  10. by   lenjoy03
    Gee.... I better think before registering to any college. The regsitration fee is not that cheap you know! I'm planning to encourage my sister to register there because she already have a 8 years nursing experience and had units in MA. Hope that counts!!!
  11. by   borik1234
    hi lenjoy & dopey,,that the problem here in ontario all of us nurses from phils..my friend had a 10 yrs experience in kuwait,the CNO gave him a 11 elements/subject to take and 400 hrs clinical practise before he write the crne exam,,we're the same boat,but for me i had 2 yrs experience...i dont know to CNO,they always reason that we lack 2yrs education,,,you spent less than 10,000$ before you write the crne exam...gudluck to both of you,,,
  12. by   dopey&dopier
    [font="comic sans ms"][font="comic sans ms"]dear lenjoy.

    i hope you don't mind me by saying (and this goes out to all of us who are looking to work in a foreign country)....

    earn as much experience wherever you are ....the more specialised the area you work in, the better....

    if you could do a course where you would earn a certificate or diploma from....go for it...

    if you have worked in the middle east most especially, keep your contracts no matter what...you'd need that someday...

    do a lot of research on the place you want to work in may that be the hospital, or the state or the country... weigh your pros and cons....this will save you a lot of hassle and money as well...

    and don't give up...

    just some of the things i learned from this journey of mine


    and yes....ma is a post basic course that could add points to her application...
  13. by   lenjoy03
    thank you Dopey and borik. I'm not rushing to work in canada just yet. I'm encouraging my sister to go there first. Since she alreay had alot of experience. Being a pedia nurse for 3 days here and pedia onco in Middle east for about 4 years now. And of course, she has money to finance her means when she want to go there.... I think she just had a 1 year in her MA. She already had alot of trainings.... Trust me! The mere onco nurse works like an ICU nurse!!!! As for me, I work in an infectious area for almost 2 months now. hehehe....

    Borik, have you registered to CNO yet? What happened? Please tell us about it...

    Thank you....

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