Pinoy care visa center - page 10

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hey guys! has anyone hear of PINOYCARE VISA CENTER? or who applied their services? I recently attended their orientation seminar here in davao city and they said that the CIC would shell out immigrant visas for nurses for as... Read More


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    Quote from Silverdragon102
    As I keep saying why would you want to use an agency when it can be done by yourself???

    Starting point would be reading these threads

    FAQ CRNE
    IEN Read first
    FAQ SEC

    and then read once you have decided which route to take
    CIC

    Also be aware by reading the Canadian forum on which provinces are having employment issues because if you pick a province that is having employment issues like Alberta is currently then you will expect delays.

    As much as i would want to do it on my own i dont have the big amount like 500 thousand pesos as show money for the embassy. I was told that Pinoy Care will take care of that. They will provide the show money for me. I guess that's why people like me would take the risk. Do you have any idea about the show money?
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    Silverdragon102 and 5cats - if I read the posts correctly, you are both IENs? If so, would you answer some questions - did you both follow all the rules and regulations to the letter when applying for immigration? Were you suppose to have settlement funds, and did you actually meet this requirement as stated in the CIC?

    I can understand why Filipinos are using agencies like Pinoy Care. If you are fortunate enough to have a paying nursing job, you probably make 10,000 to 15,000 a month. After paying living expenses, there is little possibility of saving the 500,000+ required for settlement funds.

    I can already hear some here say, OK, so be it. Then the poor Filipinos should not try to go to Canada. If nurses from the third world stop going to Canada, who will care for the baby boomers 10 to 20 years from now? I guess the provincial health authorities could do mass hiring in the Philippines or India when the time comes, and hope for the best.

    As I said before, the settlement funds requirement is a farce the way it is now, so it should either be enforced or changed somehow.
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    narscathy - if I understand your post, you paid Pinoy Care the 20K deposit, but you do not have the required one year of paid work experience, and Pinoy Care was aware of this?

    If so, what did Pinoy Care say they would do about this requirement when it comes time to submit the application? If they did not expressly address this concern, I would make sure to get a direct answer to a specific question - how will I meet the work experience requirement?

    I recently attended a presentation by Pinoy Care at a local hotel. USSI was also there. I was not impressed! There were many half-truths and exaggerations. For example, they said that the nurses would have no problem with the CRNE. If you look at the CNA website, you will find that the percentage of IENs who pass the CRNE has been as low as 41%, and for 2008, the latest data available, it was 66%. Surely, some who failed must be from the Philippines.

    I believe Pinoy Care is legitimate. However, they are getting so many new clients, that I believe they have a large backlog to work through. If you don't have the settlement funds, but meet the other requirements, Pinoy Care may well get you a visa for Canada, but at the presentation I went to, they did not emphasize that the process could take more than 1 year.
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    Thatt's my problem canman...They don't emphasize that it would really take more than a year to process all the papers aside from CRNA. I was fooled by their assurance for using USSI services to find an arranged employemnt. Now I'm on agony, my money has gone to waste.. The owner assures me that she can process my papers however, I should find a work related to my course whether it is a volunteer or training program whilst to my application. It was very gruesome being hypnotized with their orientation..huhu.. By the way canman, where did Pinoy Care Visa Center held their orientatoin again?
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    Quote from canman
    silverdragon102 and 5cats - if i read the posts correctly, you are both iens? if so, would you answer some questions - did you both follow all the rules and regulations to the letter when applying for immigration? were you suppose to have settlement funds, and did you actually meet this requirement as stated in the cic?

    i can understand why filipinos are using agencies like pinoy care. if you are fortunate enough to have a paying nursing job, you probably make 10,000 to 15,000 a month. after paying living expenses, there is little possibility of saving the 500,000+ required for settlement funds.

    i can already hear some here say, ok, so be it. then the poor filipinos should not try to go to canada. if nurses from the third world stop going to canada, who will care for the baby boomers 10 to 20 years from now? i guess the provincial health authorities could do mass hiring in the philippines or india when the time comes, and hope for the best.

    as i said before, the settlement funds requirement is a farce the way it is now, so it should either be enforced or changed somehow.
    yes i am a ien but came over because my husband had a job and we still had to show proof of funds like everyone else as set out in the cic website as well as meet all other requirements set out my the cic and they even questioned something with my husband's application form and we had to send in further documentation so it shows that they do check out the paperwork. the proof of funds are there for a reason and is there so that you can support yourself for a certain period of time without claiming from the country where you haven't paid anything into it.

    this is why i think it is wrong that an agency is saying they have funds that you can use and then remove it when cic states

    you must show that you have enough money to support yourself and your dependants after you arrive in canada. you cannot borrow this money from another person. you must be able to use this money to support the costs of living for your family.

    however it also states

    you do not have to show that you have these funds if you have arranged employment in canada.

    skilled workers and professionals: who can apply—proof of funds

    so if you do the process on your own without the use of an agency and have a job to go to then you do not need to show you have these funds
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    Quote from canman
    Silverdragon102 .

    I can already hear some here say, OK, so be it. Then the poor Filipinos should not try to go to Canada. If nurses from the third world stop going to Canada, who will care for the baby boomers 10 to 20 years from now? I guess the provincial health authorities could do mass hiring in the Philippines or India when the time comes, and hope for the best.

    As I said before, the settlement funds requirement is a farce the way it is now, so it should either be enforced or changed somehow.
    Uhm, checkout nursing school enrollments in Canada. Every class is oversubscribed. CNA is also revamping nursing education and the various levels of nurses are having their scope of practice changed to encourage greater utilization of the LPN, RPN, and RN both within the hospital and community setting.

    In my hospital, it was not uncommon for the IENs who came from the Phillipines in 2008 to require 3 attempts at the CRNE. I know of three at this time in one area who have failed twice and are on their last attempt.

    We are seeing an increase of applications from the US as well.

    But due to the current economic situation in several provinces, Canada would be low on my list of places to look for a job if migrating. Locally educated new grads can't find work despite passing the CRNE on their first attempt, so foreign nurses would definitely have a hard time.
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    narscathy:

    how will pinoy care visa center process your papers to meet these requirements:

    requirements for cdn fsw visa:

    e37025.book from the cic website :

    "you have at least one year of continuous full-time paid work experience or the equivalent in part-time continuous employment..."

    from the manila cdn embassy requirements :
    work experience
    for you and your spouse or common-law partner:
    notarized employment contracts from your present and past employers, accompanied by an english or french translation
    •original and up-to-date letters of reference from your past and current employers. letters must be written on company letterhead and show the company’s full address, telephone and fax numbers, and be stamped with the company’s official seal.
    letters must include all of the following information:
    •the specific period of your employment with the company
    •the positions you have held during the period of employment and the time spent in each position
    •your main responsibilities and duties in each position
    •your total annual salary plus benefits
    •the signature of your immediate supervisor or the personnel officer of the company
    •a business card of the person signing


    i see from other posts that you made that at one time you were thinking of going to australia. what happened?


    where did you attend the pinoy care presentation? i cannot yet send a pm, since i don't have enough posts, but can you e-mail me with your e-mail address so i can contact you? i have other things i would like to tell you, but not on this forum - thanks.


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    Fiona:

    Thanks for the information. I hope you are right, since I am one of the first wave of the baby boomer generation, and want to be well cared for in my old(er) age

    Fortunately, I have not had to be in hospital for over half a century. However, when my dad had bypass surgery in Halifax, NS about 10 years ago, my mom told me the care he received was awful!

    Over the years, I have seen many boom and bust cycles in nursing school enrollment. We just went through a period of high demand for nurses, so I would understand why you have full enrollment in those schools. However, if, as you state, new graduates are not able to find jobs, I would expect, based on history, that applications to nursing schools will drop drastically.

    Perhaps utilization of LPNs, RPNs, etc., will lead to improved patient care, while at the same time, provide this care in a cost efficient manner for the hospital budgets. We can hope so.

    In which province are you working? Was it one which hired a large group of Filipino nurses lately? I was interested in your comments on recent Filipino nurses and the CRNE. I cannot understand the problem. They are certainly not dumb, and have had to pass a very tough board exam in the Philippines before getting registered there. There may be a clue on the CNA statistics for the 2008 exam. The average age of the IENs who wrote the exam was over 35 years of age. I would expect that recent graduates would do better on exams like the CRNE, NCLEX, etc., than someone who has been away from school for 10+ years. Do you have any other explanation?

    I appreciate your thoughtful comments.
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    Canman:

    yes I did meet the requirements, because I did have confirmed employment when I came over on a work permit. I don't cheat and I don't think it's good to do that, you will allways have the fear you might be discovered and than bye bye Canada.

    And who's to tell what that doubtful and very questionable agency will do, should you fall behind the payments for some reason.

    5cats
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    Quote from canman
    Fiona:

    Thanks for the information. I hope you are right, since I am one of the first wave of the baby boomer generation, and want to be well cared for in my old(er) age

    Fortunately, I have not had to be in hospital for over half a century. However, when my dad had bypass surgery in Halifax, NS about 10 years ago, my mom told me the care he received was awful!.

    .

    In which province are you working? Was it one which hired a large group of Filipino nurses lately? I was interested in your comments on recent Filipino nurses and the CRNE. I cannot understand the problem. They are certainly not dumb, and have had to pass a very tough board exam in the Philippines before getting registered there. There may be a clue on the CNA statistics for the 2008 exam. The average age of the IENs who wrote the exam was over 35 years of age. I would expect that recent graduates would do better on exams like the CRNE, NCLEX, etc., than someone who has been away from school for 10+ years. Do you have any other explanation?

    I appreciate your thoughtful comments.
    Do you work for a recruitment agency?

    Have you researched this topic on this website. The answers to all your questions are there. But I will give you the Coles Notes version on the topic.

    End of 2007, this and the Cdn. threads were flooded by PI nurses wanting to come to Canada. Mostly new grads who claimed to come from "the land of nurses" and were "the best nurses in the world" among other things and were going "to save our hospitals".

    Capital Health in Alberta went on an Australasian recruiting drive. After spending a load of cash their recruits started arriving in 2008. Turns out many of the BScNs did not live up to their resumes. The education was found only to be equivalent to locally educated PNs, as a result they were permitted to work as PNs after intense orientation to Canadian Nursing courses paid for by Capital Health. Several didn't manage that and had their work permits withdrawn and were required to return home. The Australian and NZ nurses didn't have this problem. As a result the now widely loved SEC was created. Some of the PI nurses attended extra classes to upgrade their BScNs to local requirements, a few passed first time, I know of three in one area (and it was the area they worked at back home) who have now written for the third time and are waiting results). These nurses are all under 35, many I would say are in their late 20s. The CRNE and CPRNE is more pyscho-social and related to healthcare in Canada than lab value, etc. You need to know your patient population and their thought process to be successful.

    A result of this was no improvement of staffing needs because they didn't get the nurses they thought they were. It cost a load in resettlement and housing fees. The local LPNs were hacked off because for the amount of cash spent recruiting overseas, CH could have paid for a class of LPNs to upgrade to RN status and these were nurses tied to their hospitals by family and community connections. Manager were ticked off because many nurses clearly stated that they were only in Alberta to wait out retrogression and move on to the US after their employment contracts were up.

    As a result of this experience, SEC has now spread due to the unreliability of education quality control coming out of the Phillipines, people are looking twice at the expenses incurred due to the downturn in the local economy.

    Oh, and I know of two nurses who have returned to work in the Maritimes due to their husbands loosing the jobs that brought them to AB in the first place.


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