Published Oct 27, 2011
chicksmom101
13 Posts
[color=#000] i answered yes to the question about being terminated from a position since my last renewal. i recieved my license in 2009, and this is my first time renewing my license. i worked at a hospital from may 2009 to february of 2011. i resigned my position and left on good terms with no disciplinary actions of any type. i put several applications in to obtain a different place of employment. i was contacted by another hospital about a new job in february 2011 and that is when i gave my resignation to my place of employment. i began working at the new hospital the first week of march 2011. while i was going through orientation, i was offered my "dream job" at a hospital for children. i contacted my boss and told her i would not be returning to my position as i was hired at the childrens hospital. i began working at the childrens hospital, where i currently am working. i decided to work for my first employer on a prn basis in june 2011, the night i returned, some 3 months later, i was given an assignment. i did not have a badge to clock in with, the manager said they would have one for me, but did not. i got to the floor and no one had told me that all of the charting had changed. i had no password, or username. i had to sit on the phone for 45 minutes for them to grant me permission to chart, which i had no clue how to chart, because it was a new system. i also had no access to the pyxis system to get medications for my patients, i had to rely on my lpn to get the medicaitons out of pyxis. she had been an lpn for 30 plus years, along with other crucial changes such as iv machines and pca's that were changed since i had left. i was not oriented to any of the new charting or machines on the unit because i had not know it had changed. i called the charge nurse to explain what had happened. she suggested i call the head nurse, which i did. she told me she was busy right now and would have to deal with it later, she was in a code and it was not a priority. after so many times asking for help around the unit, with no one to help me. . i finally finished charting on my patients at about 10:30pm. i had to figure it out all by myself with no help. i was working with an lpn that night who shared the 6 patients with me. i told her that i was so upset, that no one would help me with any of my issues, that i was leaving. i was so frustrated with the lack of help from the administration, i left. i honestly feel they did not do what they were supposed to do to adequately train me. i did not leave my patients without a licensed person to care for them, they had an lpn. so technicall it was not patient abandonment.the supervisor that re-hired me, was no longer on that unit. there was no supervisor for that unit, at that time, she had left and there was a vacancy, so i am not sure it was something that was overlooked on their part, but they definately did not prepare me. they sent me a letter of termination, stating they "may or may not" submit this to the board of nursing. i have not heard anything else from the hospital but i wanted to be truthful when i answered this question, this is why i answered yes to the question and i have explained it to the best of my knowledge. i love my new job and i have been awarded an award for being a strong patient advocate, and nominated for the rn to bsn program at my hospital with a possible scholarship. what do you think the board will do? i am a great nurse as evident by my awards, and my love of nursing. i am so stressed about what the board will do? the hospital never turned me in, and since i answered "yes", to this question i am afraid they will start a investigation since i self disclosed my termination.
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xtxrn, ASN, RN
4,267 Posts
Did you report off to anyone before leaving?
If you didn't report off- you abandoned....
merlee
1,246 Posts
Did your renewal go through? Have you heard from anyone?
Many, many people get terminated - - you didn't divert meds, or abandon your patients.
You were not neglectful.
Most facilities do not report each termination, just those that are truly problematic. They would be up to their elbows in paperwork if every termination was turned into the BON.
Simply Complicated
1,100 Posts
Did it ask you to explain, and you explained all this? Or was it a simple yes or no question? I wouldn't think that they would go and do a big search, if it was never reported. But then again, it's probably a case by case basis of what they do.
Was your renewal processed?
I sent in my renewal online on the 21st of october, and when I called them they said to wait and see if more information is needed, may or may not be enough information for the board to make a decision. either they will update the renewal or send me a request to appear in person in front of the board. Technically I did not report off to anyone, I was working with a LPN, which is common there. and I told her I was leaving. But, they did not adequately train me for the new stuff, and did not tell me prior to report that I had no access to charting, medications, or new IV pumps and PCA machines. I called the charge and Head nurse and spoke to them about the problems, and they ignored me. I had an excellent record there and even have an email from my EX manager before she left stating she was happy to have me back PRN. I am so nervous....
There were about 6 other RN's and 3 LPN's on the floor that night only a 25 bed unit at full capacity ( only about 18 patients that night)
The place I worked at never reported me. I reported myself when I answered the question on my renewal. Will they start a investigation if I reported it? and not the place of employment?
If there is an issue- it's going to be not reporting off. Just having someone else there isn't enough. I understand you didn't get the orientation, but you were the assigned nurse.
It may be that nothing comes of this. Talk to THEM- what can go worse? And at least you will know :)
But, in the future, there has to be a "legit" hand off, with report to another nurse. I've worked in buildings with other nurses, but just saying I'm leaving is not adequate.
Hopefully, all will go well
I really don't think the BON has the time or resources to put into investigating all people who answer the "termination" question with "yes". While I know crazy things happen, I can't see them starting an investigation without some outside source giving them reason to believe that you are a risk to have practicing. Leaving without report is NOT good- but I don't see it in the same way as someone who is killing off the patients (or as in the case of Andrea Yates, drowning her 5 kids- she was an RN- and it took the board over a year to yank her license ).
Don't borrow trouble :) Don't assume that the length of time is any indication of a problem. Maybe they just got swamped
SuesquatchRN, BSN, RN
10,263 Posts
I think you'll be fine.
Rodoon, BSN, MSN, RN
124 Posts
Guess I'll be the bad guy. You're putting responsibility on everyone but yourself. You made assumptions that turned out not to be true and you said "see ya". You did abandon the patients and I'm guessing the LPN probably felt like you dumped on her. Why didn't you tell the supervisor or the shift supervisor to take report from you because you were leaving?
What if a patient coded as soon as you hit fresh air? Another poster told you the truth, the BON doesn't have enough people to investigate this, so you lucked out. Or maybe one of those supervisors push it and it comes up later. I'm guessing the stress you feel now is way worse and longer than the stress of finishing that shift doing the best you could. Actions define a good nurse, actions under stress reveal character, and awards don't PROVE you're a Great nurse.
But also, no one is perfect. I take complete blame for my actions, BUT at what point does the Hospital have to take blame? Why do people always assume that the hospital has no role in this. They dumped on me as well, not notifying me that everything had changed until after report. I called and talked to the charge several times, ( and she was also on the floor) and I spoke to the Head Nurse. I take complete blame for my actions. But I also feel that everyone makes mistakes. Not one of my patients were critical, all stable, and I didnt leave them alone. I know it was not right, but everyone makes mistakes. and I did tell the truth. that has to count for something.