Would CCNE support a non paper ADN-BSN option where you actually learn something important

[SuburbsGirl]

I mean most of us pretty much will agree ADN-BSN programs are a complete joke. Would accrediting bodies approve a program that you would actually learn something important without writing papers. Says a class like Medical Spanish would be part of it. Patho, pharmacology, etc. No fluff at all. Asking for a friend. Thinking of starting a program.

[TiffyRN, BSN, PhD]

I feel CCNE would. They are flexible on how to assess program objectives as long as they are achieved. One of the big challenges is that papers are an efficient and effective means to assess knowledge in a distance situation. Suggest consulting "Nurse as Educator" (S. B. Bastable) chapter 11; Instructional methods and Settings. Also "Teaching in Nursing" by Billings & Halstead, chapters 11 and 25. Those chapters kind of go through the different tools a nursing professor can use to evaluate knowledge.

And I disagree that ADN to BSN programs are a joke and no, I'm not an academic. Some programs are appear to be designed to simply check boxes and move students through however, students hold a lot of responsibility for what they learn. I chose to learn as much as I could and came out of my BSN experience inspired and enriched. I mean after all, if I was going to have to pay for the courses anyway, might as well try to get something out of it right?

[NICUmiiki, DNP, NP]

I didn't do an RN-BSN, but I'm in grad school. Anecdotally, I've attended 2 different schools and noticed a huge difference in how students are assessed.

The first school was an online FNP program. Lots of papers. That's how they prove that they presented/you learned the material.

The second in an in-person NNP (they have many other tracks). We write significantly less papers. We more likely to be quizzed and tested for grades with a couple of papers (about one per class with the more theory classes having maybe two and the content courses having none). They know they taught it because they taught it in class.

Most programs try to follow the Essentials of (whatever type program it is). The Essentials of Baccalaureate Education for Professional Nursing Practice is here http://www.aacnnursing.org/portals/42/publications/baccessentials08.pdf

I'm not sure how you'd meet Essential III (Scholarship for Evidence­ Based Practice) without any paper writing. At some point, you need the student to articulate that they can do it.