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Will watered down courses work for MSN?

Here at Cal State Long Beach, some of the nursing prereqs have been watered down or plain ol dumbed down in an attempt to streamline the process. I dont know why they did this since the bottlenecks are getting into A&P. If anything, I thought they should have kept the harder courses to better weed out the overflowing pre-nursing pool.

But anyways, now we have this thing called Math 109: Algebraic Concepts for College. It is a dead-end math course created recently for the sole purpose of fulfilling the BSN requirement. It was like middle school algebra and in retrospect, a complete and utter waste of time.

Another course we have is Chem 140, a 5 unit chem course thats suppose to cover bio/org/phys chem. It used to be 2 separate chem courses that spanned 2 semesters and 8 units. This class was challenging but you can still tell it was simply scanning the subject.

Im wondering if these "new" speedier courses will come to bite me in the ass in the future. Im pretty sure I will go for a masters to be a NP or NA sometime in the future, and I dont want to have to retake math and chem just cause these floofy courses dont transfer. Not that theres anything I can do about it now, but I wonder how much of a disservice orientation advisors are doing to incoming freshman by recommending these courses.

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I would take a look at the NP programs of interest to you - if you are staying in CA or intend to be at a CA U then you can glance at their current pre-reqs and see. A lot of times the programs assume the BSN will meet majority of pre-reqs and then might have a few additional class req such as stats or other.. see local programs to get a better idea~ The water down isn't always bad - there is no need to teach calculus or trig if it's not needed... but that doesn't make it bad as long as the content you need is then focused on~ best of luck~

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Nuts!

All the master's programs at CSULB requires a "upper division statistics course" to apply. Since Math 109 is a dead end course, that means I have to take start over by taking Calc I, II, III just to get permission to take an upper division stats course. :(

I would look around at different college offerings of upper stats and different NP programs.. that particular combo appears to require the cal sequence but most/many do not. (that's the good news~) So i wouldn't change my schedule just yet,v/r

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Instead of taking any "watered down" prenursing courses, one always has the option of taking the regular courses. No school of nursing will penalize a person for taking inorganic, organic, and biochemistry with chemistry, premed, and engineering majors instead of one semester of chemistry for allied health sciences or chem 1n(ursing).

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The regular 2-part chem course got dissolved so it would seem.

As for math, its too late to do anything about that. I should never have listened to the student advisers at orientation. Really, did anyone get anything helpful during that?

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During orientation I was so green I couldn't have told you what state I was in. No, I got absolutely nothing out of it. Not many know what the hard questions to ask are at that point.

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They didnt even have nursing students for the orientation. They got pre-nursing students, which were a dime a dozen at my school.

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