Published Jan 21, 2007
stillpressingon
225 Posts
Hi all,
I've heard that a level IV NICU (or at least a baby who qualifies as level IV) is either on ECMO or ??? There's something about Nit___? I don't remember what it was. What's the other thing and when is it used?
Thanks much
-kaye
Sweeper933
409 Posts
I think you might be refering to Nitric Oxide (NO). It is used when babies have severe PPHN, as it is a bronchodialator.
As far as the level is concerned, I was under the impression that there were no level IV units... that they only went up to III. This might differ state to state, I do not know.
I work in a level III unit and we do NO, but no echmo. They only time we send babies down to the children's hospital, is when they need echmo, or have severe cardio/neuro problems that we cannot handle. Otherwise, we handle them all.
Hope that helped!
SteveNNP, MSN, NP
1 Article; 2,512 Posts
I've heard some units described as IIIa, IV, etc...... As far as I know, this is the units calling themselves "IV, IIIa's" because they are usually larger and do more, such as head cooling, ECMO, complex surgery than other Level III's. However, I am unaware that the healthcare system-that-be recognizes anything "official" higher than a Level III, which is the highest acuity designation for a NICU. There are Level I ER's, which are the highest acuity, and I've never heard any describe themselves as "1a" etc.... Maybe some of the RN's who work at one of these "IIIa's or IV" NICU's can clarify.....
llg, PhD, RN
13,469 Posts
The state of Virginia (and maybe a few others) have designated a couple of Level IV NICU's to distinguish them from the many nurseries who have ventilators, but little else. Level IV nurseries must also have sub-specialty services available.
Back when the "leveling" of nurseries was orignially established, only a few nurseries could handle ventilators. So, pretty much any nursery with ventilators was considered at the highest level, a Level III. But as ventilators became more common, a need devleped to distinguish those nurseries that offer "everything" from those that just have a couple of special services. Thus, people started to informally talk about Level IIIa and Level IIIb, etc. So, finally, some places are starting to make an official, distinct category for those highest level nurseries.
Jes RN
11 Posts
I think you might be refering to Nitric Oxide (NO). It is used when babies have severe PPHN, as it is a bronchodialator. As far as the level is concerned, I was under the impression that there were no level IV units... that they only went up to III. This might differ state to state, I do not know. I work in a level III unit and we do NO, but no echmo. They only time we send babies down to the children's hospital, is when they need echmo, or have severe cardio/neuro problems that we cannot handle. Otherwise, we handle them all.Hope that helped!
Actually, at the concentrations used for PPHN (16-25 parts per million) Inhaeld NO acts as a potent vasodilator, rather than a bronchodilator.
I've also heard some units refer to themselves as level IV, though I'm not quite sure how they differ from level III. I work in a level III unit as well. We do INO, but not ECMO. I wonder if offering ECMO is a level IV qualifier?
Thanks for all the input! I've wondered for a long time but never asked!
Actually, at the concentrations used for PPHN (16-25 parts per million) Inhaeld NO acts as a potent vasodilator, rather than a bronchodilator. I've also heard some units refer to themselves as level IV, though I'm not quite sure how they differ from level III. I work in a level III unit as well. We do INO, but not ECMO. I wonder if offering ECMO is a level IV qualifier?
The ECMO aspect may vary from state to state. I am not sure on that. In Virginia, ECMO is not necessary for level IV status.
Mags4711, RN
266 Posts
Hi all,I've heard that a level IV NICU (or at least a baby who qualifies as level IV) is either on ECMO or ??? There's something about Nit___? I don't remember what it was. What's the other thing and when is it used?Thanks much-kaye
I wrote a thread about this subject back in June of 2006. Here's my first two posts in that thread.
What Level NICU are you at?
I have seen in the threads lately frequent use of the term Level 4 or Level IV NICU and I am confused about it's use. I have been told over the past few years that Level IV is no longer a recognized distinction. Is this state specific? I found an article in the AAP from a few years ago that speaks to about 9 states that still used Level IV as a name type.
However, that same article was regarding the reccs about change in policy to move the NICU level names to I, II, IIIa, IIIb, and IIIc.
Here's a snippet of it:
RECOMMENDATIONS
Regionalized systems of perinatal care are recommended to ensure that each newborn infant is delivered and cared for in a facility appropriate for his or her health care needs and to facilitate the achievement of optimal outcomes.
Level IIIA units can provide care for infants with birth weight of more than 1000 g and gestational age of more than 28 weeks. Continuous life support can be provided but is limited to conventional mechanical ventilation.
Level IIIB units can provide comprehensive care for extremely low birth weight infants (1000 g birth weight or less and 28 or less weeks' gestation); advanced respiratory care such as high-frequency ventilation and inhaled nitric oxide; prompt and on-site access to a full range of pediatric medical subspecialists; and advanced imaging with interpretation on an urgent basis, including computed tomography, magnetic resonance imaging, and echocardiography and have pediatric surgical specialists and pediatric anesthesiologists on site or at a closely related institution to perform major surgery.
Level IIIC units have the capabilities of a level IIIB NICU and are located within institutions that can provide ECMO and surgical repair of serious congenital cardiac malformations that require cardiopulmonary bypass.
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Re: What Level NICU are you at?
We have started to call ourselves a Level IIIc as a result of these policy reccommendations, I was wondering who else is? We haven't used the term Level IV for 10-15 years, though that is the level of care we provide.
faithMD, Thanks for your info! Do you have a link to that thread?
No problem:
https://allnurses.com/forums/f33/what-level-nicu-you-156806.html