What about nursing?

NurseGuy_in_06 · Dec 6, 2004

Medicine is based on Newtonian physics, a viewpoint which has been discarded in the field of physics decades ago and is now considered ancient. Considering this, where does nursing fit in?

I may be missing something. Where does nursing fit in in relation to what? And how is medicine based on Newtonian physics?

alanpe · Dec 6, 2004

[highlight]Nurrsing fit in the principles of Science[/highlight]:

Biology.

Physics.

Chemistry.

Maths.

[highlight]and human behaviour[/highlight]:

Sociology.

Psychology.

So nursisg is a science with future; relying on searching and looking for new competences can solve many problems that made suffer to population and this is reached by:

Prevention.

[highlight]Health education[/highlight].

Treatment.

In the future, I think nursing mut be look for new competences where apply all its knowledges.

Kind regards.

Fraggle · Dec 6, 2004

Medicine is based on Newtonian physics, a viewpoint which has been discarded in the field of physics decades ago and is now considered ancient. Considering this, where does nursing fit in?

It seems that, in school, we base care around and in conjunction with medical treatments. Independent nursing actions are continually being researched and backed (or changed) as such. Nursing actions that are ordered by physicians are always part of the currently acceptable line of thinking. You're right, we aren't clocks or pendulums and our "maintenance" shouldn't be based in that line of thinking. The importance of nursing is that we treat the patient outside of that realm. As do other fields.

We aren't going to see an overhaul of medical practice any time soon. Often times, new treatments or old treatments supported by new research aren't based in the old core theories. You'll find this in many sciences, b/c new research supports the change. If it's significant, it changes the way the topic is taught. If it's on such a high level that many people won't be using the change (such as some physics) in daily practice, it becomes a footnote in that change, not the core explanation. I think that applies to both doctors and nurses. It kind of trickles down. A lot of us are only going to see the effects of theory implementation. How it affects the treatments. The fact still remains that effective treatments must be supported by observable evidence through scientific study, not theory. The theory gets us there and creates new treatments, of course. I just think it's so far removed from most practitioners.

Newtonian physics is thrown out in terms of medicine. It still make sense for mechanics, though.

leasnbchs · Dec 6, 2004

Medicine is based on Newtonian physics, a viewpoint which has been discarded in the field of physics decades ago and is now considered ancient. Considering this, where does nursing fit in?

My very wise clinical instructor said it this way. "Doctors (i.e. Medicine) treat the disease or the condition, whereas Nurses treat the person."

The basis of this profession is caring for other people.

That's how it fits in!

zenman · Dec 7, 2004

I may be missing something. Where does nursing fit in in relation to what? And how is medicine based on Newtonian physics?

Medicine is geared to trying to understand parts, or reducing everything down in an effort to understand what is broke. It's a very mechanistic approach. So, medicine studys "parts" in an effort to learn about the "whole."

Using this viewpoint, medicine lags far behind modern physics. Nursing has always tended to be more "whole" oriented but we work in a healthcare model that is considered ancient (and dangerous). How do we fit in this model? Should we do something different?

alanpe · Dec 7, 2004

"we work in a healthcare model that is considered ancient (and dangerous)."

"How do we fit in this model?"

Not very well, there is just one problem, we can not change laws, it would be very good more specialties and new scopes where nurses can study and work; democratic governments try to adapt laws to what society is demanding; we are in the society.

In Spain the charge for intrusive behaviour is charged with jail, many laws have not changed here, we have today a lot of laws that were approved by Franco Gouvernment.

"Should we do something different?"

Why we must wait for sign to shot some medications when is demanding by a patient? eg insulin,

it will supose:

To decide when a patient need insulin.

To apply analysis.

To prescribe insulin.

...

Moreover it will suppose many benefits for all patients and no patients.

:saint: