What kind of person???

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Hi,

I am not a Psych. nurse and it has been a long time since I took Psych in nursing school. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what I need to know. What is the term used for a person who thinks "Me, Me, Me" Someone who dosen't care about anyone feelings but themselves, and is constantly thinking what is best for themselves no matter who they hurt. This person is not anti-social. I have looked through some Psych books and can not pinpoint one specific term. Is there one term used for people like this? Any help would be appreciated in advance. And by the way, I admire anyone who does Psych nursing. It has to be trying at times.

I am an RN currently due to health not working. My x husband is a narcissistic. That's why he's my X. I have 3 years experience as a Psych Aide I and 6 months experience as a Psyche RN. What I am wondering is, can narcissistic personality disorder be passed down to a child?

My daughter is 29 married and mother of 2. She is very strict with her children and won't let her sisters kids around hers, because "they'll get them dirty". She and her husband moved away from everyone, and won't let us see the grand kids. When she did let us see them, she gave us orders on what to do while they were here, ie...She only gets yogurt for dessert, no ice cream, don't let her do this etc. (Controlling) She calls 3-4 times a day to see "if her daughter is doing what she should be doing" and asks if I let her have ice cream or put her to bed at a certain time in the summer; she hadn't even started school yet. She is the same way with her in-laws, supposedly because they let her go swimming with unworthy individuals. They won't do what she says to do, etc. She held down her three year old daughter nightly to force her to let her brush her teeth because the 3 year old wasn't doing it good enough. (until I carefully said something about it when I found out) She lets her daughter get constipated and has done so for years, even though I carefully told her what to do to prevent it. Didn't think it was a big deal that she had stools that were 3-4" in diameter and hard as a brick. When we have visited her house, she was so uptight that we had to walk on egg shells around her to keep her from getting upset. She treated us like we were intruders. She talks about her sister and her kids as though she were dirt and her husband has called them white trash and she didn't defend her sister. She is obviously physically distressed when her husband gets us into a discussion where he is the only person who is right. But she's on his side about everything. He generally has these discussions where he is better than the person he is talking about. He has even stated that he can go to bed with any problem in the world and wake up with the answer for EVERYONE's problems. He always has the answers for all our problems even when we don't ask for his advice. Even a baby shower that was supposed to be a surprise had her calling me to see who was on the guest list so we didn't invite certain people. She took other girls boyfriends away as a teenager, stating "it's time for them to break up". She is and has been since then a manipulator, always in her behalf. She stands in front of the mirror smacking her lips in kissing motions to see how she looks. She puts down everyone and everything as though she is better than all that. I think they both have narcissistic personality disorders. Am I right? Distressed grandma.

I believe this is a person who is egocentric. :typing

Specializes in Psych.

I call her Melissa!

It's fascinating that even Psych nurses can't find a definite label to use in this case.

It points up what I have always believed. Labels are good as far as they go and we don have to start somewhere in treating patients. It's just that, like horoscopes, there is tremendous overlap. I don't want to upset who swears by horoscopes, this is just my POV. :twocents:

When you study the various personality disorders, you see lots of overlap, lots of similarities. And who's to say someone can't have more than one diagnosis?

Reminds me of the old joke about getting 3 scholars together and you'll get 10 opinions. :banghead: :confused: :argue: :idea:

I am an RN currently due to health not working. My x husband is a narcissistic. That's why he's my X. I have 3 years experience as a Psych Aide I and 6 months experience as a Psyche RN. What I am wondering is, can narcissistic personality disorder be passed down to a child?

My daughter is 29 married and mother of 2. She is very strict with her children and won't let her sisters kids around hers, because "they'll get them dirty". She and her husband moved away from everyone, and won't let us see the grand kids. When she did let us see them, she gave us orders on what to do while they were here, ie...She only gets yogurt for dessert, no ice cream, don't let her do this etc. (Controlling) She calls 3-4 times a day to see "if her daughter is doing what she should be doing" and asks if I let her have ice cream or put her to bed at a certain time in the summer; she hadn't even started school yet. She is the same way with her in-laws, supposedly because they let her go swimming with unworthy individuals. They won't do what she says to do, etc. She held down her three year old daughter nightly to force her to let her brush her teeth because the 3 year old wasn't doing it good enough. (until I carefully said something about it when I found out) She lets her daughter get constipated and has done so for years, even though I carefully told her what to do to prevent it. Didn't think it was a big deal that she had stools that were 3-4" in diameter and hard as a brick. When we have visited her house, she was so uptight that we had to walk on egg shells around her to keep her from getting upset. She treated us like we were intruders. She talks about her sister and her kids as though she were dirt and her husband has called them white trash and she didn't defend her sister. She is obviously physically distressed when her husband gets us into a discussion where he is the only person who is right. But she's on his side about everything. He generally has these discussions where he is better than the person he is talking about. He has even stated that he can go to bed with any problem in the world and wake up with the answer for EVERYONE's problems. He always has the answers for all our problems even when we don't ask for his advice. Even a baby shower that was supposed to be a surprise had her calling me to see who was on the guest list so we didn't invite certain people. She took other girls boyfriends away as a teenager, stating "it's time for them to break up". She is and has been since then a manipulator, always in her behalf. She stands in front of the mirror smacking her lips in kissing motions to see how she looks. She puts down everyone and everything as though she is better than all that. I think they both have narcissistic personality disorders. Am I right? Distressed grandma.

I think some of what she does is good - monitoring dd's diet for excess sweets - but letting her get constipated, of course, is not good. Does the child see a pediatrician? Might you be able to go along to the doctor with them?

She might be in an abusive domestic relationship. Is he violent towards her? Are the kids being abused? There is always the option to call the authorities to evaluate the home but, of course, that can be a real 2-edged sword. Kids to foster care, etc. On the other hand, as an RN, you are required to report if you suspect abuse.

She sounds either mean innately or mean from having been mistreated.

I don't know that finding a label is necessarily needed or helpful. It seems like they need love and prayers. As somewhat of an outsider (not Mom but Grandmom), you are right, IMHO, to use a light touch and not try to express your distress to her. Tough situation. I hope things improve.

Specializes in Psych, substance abuse, MR-DD.

Just wanted to say that antisocial doesn't mean that they don't interact with people or that they isolate, it means that they don't follow sociocultural norms and have no regard for other people. Think Ted Bundy, very charming and personable, but it was only to manipulate the person or people around him, not because he actually was being social.

It's fascinating that even Psych nurses can't find a definite label to use in this case.

That's one thing I didn't like about psych, everything is so mucky and mixed. A patient may have a psych and personality disorder and/or alcohol or drug abuse, plus just s plain messed up past and life. It's so hard to determine what is causing what. Plus, the description was so vague that alot of psych disorders fit.

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