I thought i might let you know that at our place 2 senior sisters doing WLI list most weekends. This has been happening for past 6 yrs or so.
Other nurses talk about it as being unfair but are frightened to say anything.
I don't usually do this list (never done one b4) but then i decided that i might do one. My lead nurse told me the next date avaibale, so i put my name on the list yesterday and meant to tell our her today but she found out before i had chance to tell her.
She really got annoyed the fact that i put name, she went on to say that she has already had planned the staff for that day 6 weeks ago, but i told her that the date was only confirmed one week ago and that lead nurse has told me to put my name on it. And guess which staff she had in her mind? her friend (other senior sister). She has put her friends name on the list to do saturday and sunday. I have informed my lead nurse who said that will have word with this sister. What do you think?
this is a very good forum and views expressed here are for the purpose of learning i do benefit. well done to nurse paris who manage to sort out her issue . there is no perfect system anywhere you go but i have to be biased and say that in the USA where i hope to practise i will be able to dictate my enviroment there are some hospital especially my former one who dont let you do WLI for 3 weeks if you have been off sick prior and post doing on
this is a very good forum and views expressed here are for the purpose of learning i do benefit. sad nurse mable feels upset but its the way the cookie crumbles well done to nurse paris who manage to sort out her issue . there is no perfect system anywhere you go but i have to be biased and say that in the USA where i hope to practise i will be able to dictate my enviroment there are some hospital especially my former one who dont let you do WLI for 3 weeks if you have been off sick prior and post doing on
Nope dont believe I mentioned being upset to be quite frank I am very secure in my professionalism, practice and managerial skills and do not need approval (or disapproval) from a complete stranger. You have obviously had a very bad experience with managment which I am sorry for, but this appears to affect your ability to view any one who defends managment constructively and therefore resort to inappropriate and uprofessional personal attacks.
I hope you find what you are looking for in the USA but I am sure that there are nurse managers there too and if you cannot resolve conflicts in a constructive manner you will proberly not get on much better there either.
our hospital runs mostly by experienced staff nurses over the weekend. no senior sisters work late duty or weekends and therefore they do not do horrible shifts to fit in the requests. yes senior sister have 24 hr responsibilities and at times do have to fill the gap (though not that often at our place).
when junior staff request time off to attend appointments they have to take days off or book a/l’s, not really accommodative is it.
yes criticism can go both ways and majority of junior staff do not take unnecessary time off. but it is senior sisters (at our place) are phoning sick specially after doing wli or when sun comes out. one has just come back after being off sick for 3 months with stress.
in addition i don’t think i needed to be reminded about ward managers having very strict guidelines etc, as i have been in senior position in the past.
as i mentioned i raised this issue with lead nurse, and was shocked to discover the unfairness that was going on. (ok this should have been discovered ages ago). the lead nurse acted on very quickly, the weekly rota has been drawn up, and all staff will get equal opportunity to do wli, no same staff will be allow to do list more then once a month. if no staffs can do then senior sister will have to fill the gap. because the truth have come out senior sisters are not happy.
thankyou for your constructive comments,
it looks as if you have dealt with this in a very proffessional way that has been beneficial for everyone involved (except your senior staff) it is unfortunate you have line managers that take advantage like this and do not value thier team. i am very fortunate the ward managers within my team are all excellent which is why i defend nurse managers - there are some very good nurse managers around who do value thier staff. you say that you know that nurse managers have strict guidlines however in your situation this system seems to have failed.
without nurses such as yourself raising concerns and addressing issues with senior managment in ways that achieve results and not just resorting to the "it's not fair" attitude that is destructive and demorilising to all, then stricter guidlines such as the one you have managed to get in place may not be implemented which leads to an unhappy workforce.
mabel u.k
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I will not reply to your accusations or assumptions but will merely state that your comments are rude, judgmental and offensive.