USF master's entry-CNL

dianajh73 · May 23, 2009

Her e-mail indicated that we needed both the physical and the immunizations. I would assume that we are "RN students" at this point and the "graduate student" title would apply once we are not doing clinicals through the college during the MSN portion. I'm assuming that while completing MSN we would be using work experience, rather than college scheduled clinicals which necessitate the physical, but I could be wrong. Pretty sure you need the physical now.

Guess we'll find out Tues. :)

jimbillybob · May 23, 2009

Hi.... need them now you say?? I thought I remember seeing something like the 16th of next month is when we're supposed to have them in by? That's if they really are required in the first place (though it doesn't seem likely that there wouldn't be a healthscreen of some type for healthcare students). Anyway, I don't know where everybody is because I have yet to hear from any of the ads I've responded to. Seems like I may have to resort to plan B at this point: set up a tent on campus . Seriously though, moving is frustrating enough as it is and doing it at the last minute makes it 10 times worse. It would be short of a miracle if I get settled in on time for Tuesday.

Alison123 · Aug 25, 2009

Would anyone who got into USF entry level MSN CNL program be willing to share their admission stats? Just curious about gpa, volunteer hours, etc. They weren't specific at the info meeting. Just wondering what my chance are! Thanks! :)

Sandman2855 · Sep 3, 2009

I got into USF Entry Masters CNL. 3.57 overall bachelors GPA in Psychology from UCSB. Chem, anatomy, physiology, micro taken after my bachelors with a 4.0. EMT working in an emergency department with experience working on an ambulance. 26 year old male. Hope that helps.. I have no idea if I just barely made the cut or was towards the top so I dont know exactly what your chances are but there is one example for you :). Good luck!

kisunya · Sep 3, 2009

hello everyone,

i have a applied to the msn-cnl program at usf cupertino campus.

can anyone who is in this program already share your feelings?

thank you

Faith2bNP · Mar 27, 2012

Her e-mail indicated that we needed both the physical and the immunizations. I would assume that we are "RN students" at this point and the "graduate student" title would apply once we are not doing clinicals through the college during the MSN portion. I'm assuming that while completing MSN we would be using work experience, rather than college scheduled clinicals which necessitate the physical, but I could be wrong. Pretty sure you need the physical now.
Guess we'll find out Tues. :)

Hi! I was wondering if you could give me feedback about this program! Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Faith2bNP · Mar 27, 2012

The cost is actually not bad at all considering it's a graduate program. Tuition at Samuel Merritt, which if I'm not mistaken, costs something like $30,000 per semester for their ELMSN. What I do find interesting however is how Fresno seems to be always pointing out the fact that their program doesn't prepare the student for a BSN. I'm wondering what the deal is on this. I mean, isn't an MSN better than a BSN? If so, why then do they keep flashing the no-BSN deal as if one should take caution? They even have you initial a statement acknowledging this fact, which looks a lot like a liability waiver of sorts.
Anyway, what have you guys heard about Fresno's program? Anything good? bad? I don't see very many FSU-ers posting anything anywhere about their experiences. I'm hoping it's a sign that the program is more good than not so good. It would be a big waste to find out at the last minute that the program sucks.

Hi! I was wondering if you could give me feedback about this program! Any info would be greatly appreciated! I have not been able to find any other posts about this program!

Faith2bNP · Mar 27, 2012

Yay......I'm crossing my fingers for you guys. On a side note....start ghetting a lot of sleep becasue we are not goignt o get any the whoel summer!!

Hi! I was wondering if you could give me feedback about this program! Any info would be greatly appreciated! I have not been able to find any other posts about this program! Hoping to get feedback from someone who is/was in CSU Fresno's ELM CNS program. Thanks!

dianajh73 · Mar 27, 2012

I am just finishing the Masters portion of the ELM CNS course, although I will have to take 2 more courses in the Fall in order to sit for the National CNS certification test for Adult/Gero and Nurse Educator, I will have CA state CNS.

The trick with CSUF is to get information from students in the courses or attend council meetings because the staff are VERY bad not to provide information or seem to think they are clear when students are scratching their collective heads.

They are no longer offering the program in the format we took (18 month RN and 18 month Masters), so I believe that it will take longer to complete, but they are hoping to retain more students. We have lost about 50% of our initial group because they got jobs and could not continue to focus on school, or got frustrated with the program and re-evaluated. It is a VERY long 3 yr program when your only break is over Christmas & New Years. Plus the first Summer we had to take 18 units in 14 weeks and it was psychotic. Teamwork is the only way through if you take that many units simultaneously. We became a very close cohort.

From what I have seen and heard here, all nursing programs have their challenges.

Good Luck

Faith2bNP · Mar 28, 2012

I am just finishing the Masters portion of the ELM CNS course, although I will have to take 2 more courses in the Fall in order to sit for the National CNS certification test for Adult/Gero and Nurse Educator, I will have CA state CNS.
The trick with CSUF is to get information from students in the courses or attend council meetings because the staff are VERY bad not to provide information or seem to think they are clear when students are scratching their collective heads.
They are no longer offering the program in the format we took (18 month RN and 18 month Masters), so I believe that it will take longer to complete, but they are hoping to retain more students. We have lost about 50% of our initial group because they got jobs and could not continue to focus on school, or got frustrated with the program and re-evaluated. It is a VERY long 3 yr program when your only break is over Christmas & New Years. Plus the first Summer we had to take 18 units in 14 weeks and it was psychotic. Teamwork is the only way through if you take that many units simultaneously. We became a very close cohort.
From what I have seen and heard here, all nursing programs have their challenges.
Good Luck

Thanks for the feedback! I have a few questions if/when you have a minute. Did most of them drop out during the 18 mo RN or 18 mo Masters portion? Were you required to work after you completed the 18 mo RN portion? If so, full or part-time? How many days/wk were the Masters classes and were they taught in the evening?

dianajh73 · Mar 28, 2012

We only lost 4 of our original 43 during the RN portion, and that was during the summer. Everyone else made it to the end I believe. I think only about 26 or so moved on into the masters and we lost a few more after they started it. They allowed others to join our group so that we have a full cohort, it is just made up of both original ELMers plus add ins.

You are not required to work. It is actually difficult with the 200hr/semester clinical hours, although it does make placement easier because you can do clinical hrs where you work, although you cannot be paid for clinical hours.

Classes in Masters are typically 2 nights a week( 2-3hrs ea), but with the clinicals and homework it takes more to be successful

Faith2bNP · Apr 1, 2012

We only lost 4 of our original 43 during the RN portion, and that was during the summer. Everyone else made it to the end I believe. I think only about 26 or so moved on into the masters and we lost a few more after they started it. They allowed others to join our group so that we have a full cohort, it is just made up of both original ELMers plus add ins.
You are not required to work. It is actually difficult with the 200hr/semester clinical hours, although it does make placement easier because you can do clinical hrs where you work, although you cannot be paid for clinical hours.
Classes in Masters are typically 2 nights a week( 2-3hrs ea), but with the clinicals and homework it takes more to be successful

I tried to send you a personal message but it won't let me. I don't have enough posts! Congrats on making it to the end of the program! I just applied to their ELM Clinical Nurse Specialist/Nurse Educator program that starts this May. I spoke with the chair person and she said they changed the summer schedule! Yay! She said we would find out if we were accepted before May 1st!