Univ. Dundee Scotland

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Specializes in med-surg, ICU.

I have completed an online RN-BN program through Univ. of Dundee Scotland and found the program to be not only flexible, affordable and relevant (no theory or philosophy stuff), but very manageable for someone who has to work fulltime and go to school. The only warning I have is this: the writing standards are much tougher in the UK system than ours. What they consider excellent publishing is alot more strict than our colleges and it can kind of be a blow to your ego if you're used to submitting papers w/few corrections needed. There were 5 nurses in my hospital that got their bachelors through Dundee ahead of me, so I was prepared for their standards. Once I understood what they expected I enjoyed the degree so much that I kept going and am now getting my Master's through the school. Check them out if you're looking for an awesome online degree program. Thanks, Judy135

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Specializes in Critical Care, Emergency, Education, Informatics.

If you plan on going only as far as a BSN, then this may be a school for you. If ou plan on going farther, the BSN standards aren't the same there as here. When I submitted things to grad schools, not one would accept the U. Dundee stuff.

So just check things out and don't forget to think about the future.

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Hello everyone,

I just wanted you to know that I am a curent student with Uni of Dundee, actually on the MSN course, and I think they are awesome! First of all the price is fantastic - where in the US can you get an MSN from a fully accredited University (and a REAL University at that, not one of these "on-line" ones) for under $10,000???

The curriculum is all academically based, with no clinicals which is a little strange, but lets face it, if youre doing a BSN or MSN shouldnt we already know how to be nurses? The program is meant for us to direct ourselves through it, with assistance from the tutors.

I had a tough time about half way through and just wasnt "feeling it" with one tutor, (Nothing to do with her, she was very nice) and so they made alternative arrangements and placed me with someone else - and she is FANTASTIC!

The tutors CALL YOU for tutorials whenever you want to, turn around written submissions in about a week to ten days, and are very supportive.

I am now working on my dissertation with only about 6 monhts to go, and I could not recommend a distance learning University more! I have heard so many horror dtories about KAPLAN and U of Phoenix nad DUNDEE has been great! I know others feel the same because we had a little tutorial group going over the past few years too!

I am looking to move on to a healthcare related MBA. I really dont want to do the University of Phoenix program, and I want to be able to do all of the program on line/distance learning.

Has any one any information about an online/DL MBA????

If you have any questions, please ask!

Have a great day

Sharon

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Hello,

Thank you to allnurses.com to allow me the chance to voice my thoughts about the University of Dundee, Dundee Scotlant UK.

It must be clarified this is a BN (Bachlor of Nursing) program and not a BSN (Bachelor of Science in Nursing) program. Statistics and chemistry are not required. Unless you are going on to do research in the field, I fail to see where you need these areas anyway. You are given credit for your years of nursing knowledge, something that the vast majority of the US schools do not take into consideration. I have 25+ years of experience which include Med-Surg, ICU, OR, Psyc, Homecare, various management positions and Telephone Triage.

This program is NOT A PUSH OVER. I spent very long hours researching locally and on line at the University of Dundee library on the subject matter of my assigned module. I then applied this knowledge directly to my unit under the direction of my US preceptor and the nurse manager of the my unit. Clinicals are not required, but if you follow the module instructions properly, you indeed receive clinical knowledge in the fact you apply the concept of your study module directly to your area of work. YOU choose the areas of study that apply to your immediate nursing needs and do not waste time on bogus items that many BSN programs concentrate on.

I found the program to be very accommodating. I completed the program ADN to BN in about 2 years. You must be deciplined in self study, or you will never complete the course. I found ALL of my instructors to be very helpful. You could send an e-mail and easily set up a tutorial. They would even call you so you would not have an international call charge. The course is completely accredited by the NLN in the United States and met all of the criteria for my institution, the Department of Veterans Affairs, to pay for the program. I read in one of the responses the BN student applied to a graduate school in the US and none of the credits were accepted. I am sure the credits met the criteria very well, it is just a money making mentality of the United States schools and guaranteeing job security for the instructors.

I have read that some students had diffuculty completing an acceptable paper in the completion of their modules, but, as it should be with any body of higher education, mediocrity should not be accepted. You must demonstrate that you understand the concept of the content of the module and how you applied that concept. I also had a preceptor in the US, working on my unit, that I discussed he application of contents of my modules. I completed 4 modules, Nursing Management, Pain Management, Wound Management and Infection Control.

In closing I need to say this. While progressive higher eduation is fine, the nursing profession in the United States is heading in the wrong direction. There is a projection that within the next 15-20 years our healthcare system will need close to a half million nurses. I am 56 years old and I will be in that baby boomer group that will retire creating one of those openings. Our focus should be assisting the LPN, ADN and Diploma programs to expand to accommodate training of nurses and get them in the work force as quickly as possible. They are required to complete the appropriate exam for licencure so they are qualified. THEN, if they so choose, they should be assisted in every way to expand their education. This would solve a two fold problem; one to get the work force back to where it needs to be and two, keep the institutions of higher education in business for many years promoting excellence in nursing.

Thank you for your time.

R.Poole RN BN BA

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Look at South University Southuniversity.edu. They are accredited, and have an all online options. I am getting my MBA with Health Care Administration focus. I have a business background to begin with, the classes are not too rough

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Specializes in Emergency/Trauma/Education.

Oklahoma City University has an MBA in Healthcare Admin. I believe most (maybe all) of it is available online.

http://www.okcu.edu/business/graduate/mbabrochure.pdf

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I am a current student at University of Dundee, and I am ejoying my studies. I have also spoken with many online and traditional universities that said they will accept my degree. I would recomend this course and this university to anyone.

D Broussard RN,CNOR

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I am very curious, whom did you check with about the acceptance of Dundee credits for MBA programs here in the US? Some that have replied to this thread have stated the credits are not accepted. I myself do not understand why the US schools would not accept the credits if the program is NLN accredited and certified by the US agency. Once again, I believe it is money; making a student repeat what they already know and making mandatory bogus and irrelevant subjects that do not remotely apply to nursing. DGroussardRN, I would appreciate a reply about the institutions that have said they would accept Dundee!!!

Thanks

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I am very curious, whom did you check with about the acceptance of Dundee credits for MBA programs here in the US? Some that have replied to this thread have stated the credits are not accepted. I myself do not understand why the US schools would not accept the credits if the program is NLN accredited and certified by the US agency. Once again, I believe it is money; making a student repeat what they already know and making mandatory bogus and irrelevant subjects that do not remotely apply to nursing. DGroussardRN, I would appreciate a reply about the institutions that have said they would accept Dundee!!!

Thanks

I do not know about MBA, but I have checked into MSN programs... If that is what you are speaking about then I have looked at local universities in Louisiana where I am from, and also, University of South Alabama which has an online program.

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Specializes in Critical Care, Emergency, Education, Informatics.
I am very curious, whom did you check with about the acceptance of Dundee credits for MBA programs here in the US? Some that have replied to this thread have stated the credits are not accepted. I myself do not understand why the US schools would not accept the credits if the program is NLN accredited and certified by the US agency. Once again, I believe it is money; making a student repeat what they already know and making mandatory bogus and irrelevant subjects that do not remotely apply to nursing. DGroussardRN, I would appreciate a reply about the institutions that have said they would accept Dundee!!!

Thanks

The schools for the MSN i looked at were KU, Ft Hays in KS, University Colorado, Univeristy Maryland, Penn State. I have no idea if the reasons just had to do with them not understanding the program or what. I didn't persue any farther, just took another route because I knew I was going to go farther than just the BSN.

But now that I've gone on. I couldn't have done the NP stuff if I hadn't gone back and done the chemestry and math. FOR ME taking the shorter, no prereq route would have been shortsighted and not met MY needs. Like I have repeated over and over again, your needs will be different than mine, as well as your abilities. Look at what you want to accomplich in your future. WHen you get a firm handle on that then send off letters to the schools and get thier responses on a BN vs a BSN. If you don't know what your' going to want in your future, Then I'd suggest a more traditional approach. Giving you more secure options for the future. If your more comfortable than others in getting results by taking a path outside the mainstream, then by all means go for it. I took that approach for my origional RN. Then I played catch up.

P.S. When I started all this I felt that most of the requirments had nothing to do with nursing. Now I know different. The stats helps me review studies, the chemesty, micro and bio help me understand how drugs work to better select the appropriate one for the patient. The history even helps me talk to patients, I"ve got some history buffs that are a hoot to talk to.

All education that helps your train your brain to be a critical and free thinker is a good thing and a waste.

Oh and I said nothing about them not accepting credits. My only concern was how competative you'd be and if you'd meet the entrance requirments. Most will acept credits as electives if nothing else.

Make your own phone calls and send your own letters. For all you know the rest of the people posting here could be 14 yo creative writers who are making this all up, including me. Use what is said here as a piece of data to weigh against what you found yourself.

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When I said MBA I guess I was brain dead. MSN was what was supposed to be in the response. I have read from other folks in this chat that it is all in what your individual goals are. Each his own.

South Alabama......Mobile. I attended The University of West Florida in Pensacola in 1972-1973 and graduated with BA in Communications. So I have been in your neighborhood numerous times.

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