Traditional BSN at ASU

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Hi guys!

Just recently I posted a thread about the "Traditional BSN at NAU"; just in case I won't be accepted at NAU I want to know more about the traditional BSN/TCPNP at ASU. Anyone who has taken/is taking this program?

I have a few questions here:

- Is their TCPNP just the same as a traditional BSN? (sorry, I am confused because it is called as TCPNP. :))

- My insight about their program is I no longer need to hold an AAS/ADN degree because this program is created for pre-nursing students w/o a RN license. Am I correct on this?

- I am also confused of which pre-requisite courses I am supposed to follow, attached is the file of the pre-requisite courses that I am following.

- Any ideas on what is the average GPA & TEAS score of students being offered admission to this program? In addition, what criteria do they use on selecting students?

- Can the program be done online such as the RN-BSN program?

I am hoping that this program isn't competitive as their RN-BSN program. I have 13 pre-req courses left :crying2: I am already planning ahead on which classes to take, and hopefully I would be able to ace an A at all of these pre-req courses.

Above all, I will highly appreciate your suggestions/comments about the application process that I should be aware of.

Thanks again!

Pre-Reqs.pdf

Hi! I figured I would answer your questions :]

- Is their TCPNP just the same as a traditional BSN? (sorry, I am confused because it is called as TCPNP. :))

Yep! It is the same thing as a traditional BSN

- My insight about their program is I no longer need to hold an AAS/ADN degree because this program is created for pre-nursing students w/o a RN license. Am I correct on this?

For the traditional program, you are correct - you do not need to hold an ADN degree/RN license.

- I am also confused of which pre-requisite courses I am supposed to follow, attached is the file of the pre-requisite courses that I am following.

The ones on the left hand side under 'Critical Requirements' are the pre-reqs that you need to advance into the nursing program. To apply to ASU, you need to have 13 of the 17 prereqs done, and be completing the last 4 prereqs before you enter the program.

- Any ideas on what is the average GPA & TEAS score of students being offered admission to this program? In addition, what criteria do they use on selecting students?

As of right now, ASU uses a point system which includes your gpa(4 points) and TEAS score (2 points). They use your gpa from the 13 of the 17 critical courses that are listed on the pdf file. So even if you have a 3.7 overall, you can still apply with a 4.0 if you have A's in the pre-reqs. However, you have to use the grades from both english courses and 3 sciences.

I'd like to say ASU is pretty competitive. A lot of students apply with a 4.0 gpa and a decent TEAS score. If you have below a 4.0, you need to do really well on your TEAS to even be considered competitive.

Heres an example of how they score/rank students:

Student A: A student with a 4.0 and 80 on TEAS: 4.0 + (.80 * 2) = 5.6

Student B: A student with a 3.75 and 87 on TEAS: 3.75 + (.87 * 2) = 5.49

According to the past cutoff scores, Student A with a 4.0/80 on TEAS would be accepted. For this summer advancement, the lowest teas score with a 4.0 that got in was a 77.

Unfortunately, Even though Student B did well on their TEAS, they would not get in. This is why gpa is sooo important at ASU!

- Can the program be done online such as the RN-BSN program?

Nope! The Traditional program can't be done online. The program is at the Downtown Phoenix campus at ASU. Sometimes, Mayo Clinic offers 20 additional spots - and that campus is located in North Scottsdale.

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Also, I would highly suggest going to an Information Session or meeting with an advisor. ASU is notorious for constantly changing the requirements for their program. I believe this coming Fall or Spring, they are going to make it harder for transfer students to get accepted into the program. So if you already have courses done at a community college/university, I would seek out an ASU advisor to see if ASU is even worth the trouble for you.

I hope this helps!

Thank you very much Azita for your response and your time!

Well, I am getting nervous now because I have Bs on both ENG101 and ENG102; even though I want to retake them, I will just be wasting my money. So I planned to get As on all of the pre-req courses to increase my GPA.(crossing fingers)

Regarding with the pre-requisite courses, you said that I have to have 13 courses completed and the remaining 4 courses to be in progress before entering the program? What if I have completed all of them prior to entering at their program?

Yesterday, I sent an email at one of the Student Service Specialist of ASU, and I requested more information about the program. I am still awaiting their response. Oh I am getting really nervous, I think I am going to have a nervous breakdown. lol

Yeah, you can complete all classes before applying - that's what I did. :) I just got accepted for the summer advancement and have had a nice break this spring semester.

Good luck with the rest of your classes! Let me know if you have any other questions

I am so jealous that you are done with your pre-req courses,and you are now an ASU nursing student. Congrats for being accepted! :)

Thank you Azita, I really appreciate you spending some of your time answering my questions and helping me.

Good luck also!

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