"I'd get more experience on the floor. There will always be an ADON position. The fact that they have an LPN (no offense) currently in the position speaks volumes. They need a warm body.
Also, think about your career. If you're starting as an ADON, what's next? If you want to get back to the floor, this might work against you."
I thought this was an interesting comment to someone who was asking advice about becoming a ADON at a LTC facility on another thread. We all contribute to this big profession of nursing but yet as this person stated we're merely warm bodies. I was very offended, when will it ever stop? Help me to understand why people make it so hard for me to be proud of being a LPN.
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To clarify the job of a LPN being a ADON, in regards to my LTC facility. Her job consists of doing CNA hiring, firing, CNA orientation, CNA scheduling, and doing inservices to inform all staff appropriate ways to perform things (hoyer, 1 assist, 2 assist, decub care, etc.) I don't know what else she does but I know she keeps busy and from what I've gathered she does nothing out of a LPN's scope of practice. So I don't know why a LPN couldn't be an ADON. She's been doing it for 7 years and doing a great job. I don't think it's a matter of being a LPN as a ADON but rather who of all nurses is willing to be on call 24/7 every third week and whenever else your needed. The whole point of this thread was to just make acknowledgement that we all play a role and if you feel confortable with your job and are knowledgable, I don't understand what the big deal is. I of course do not promote doing anything you are not comfortable with or out of your scope of practice but not all nursing jobs are for RN's only. P.S. AND JUST BECAUSE I'M STILL IRRITATED "I'M NOT JUST A WARM BODY." Thanks to all who had positive comments to make in regards to this thread.
If I have said anything to offend you, I sincerely apologize. It was not meant to come out as harsh or cruel, and from what I see here, maybe you took it that way. It was NOT my intention, but I don't know how you processed what was said. I also did say that I probably spoke too soon before reading that in some places, LPNs do have these positions.
As I said earlier, I jumped the gun because it is really foreign to me. When I hear ADON, I see total administrative duties that were more office related than what you have mentioned; the ADONs I saw and encountered had nothing to do with what you posted. I guess it does depend on where the location and the policy and procedures of that particular facility. I don't think that I discounted the contributions that all job titles add to patient care and didn't say or think that you were promoting doing something that I was not comfortable doing. I just never saw it happen before. I was not the person that was part of the dialogue, so, I can't speak for him/her, but from what I saw, I took it as that there wasn't an RN to take the position. We have had that happen at my job before. Not so much for ADON, but for other roles. The reason why I do think that there are skills or positions that are for RNs is that if they continue to blurr the lines, then, the LPN, in my eye, would continue to be underpaid for performing more of the services that RNs do. Anyway, again, wasn't meant to put down a title that I proudly work myself. Blessed be!
You never said anything to offend me. My initial thread started because of what someone else had commented. (see original post). I know that we all have our rolls in healthcare but I just don't like it when someone thinks that certain or all jobs are above LPN's. I do not plan to ever work out of my scope of practice but do not like it when someone calls me (LPN) a warm body. I'm sure the LPN's who are in the role of ADON are very qualified. From what I gather she is monetarily compensated as if she were a RN in the same role. So I don't think the facility is trying to pull something on her. But enough of this subject, this war of licensure will go on until we all just work together. From what I can tell by the upcoming baby boomers, LPN's will have jobs for eternity. Like I've said before if everyone had there BSN's and up, then who would be left at the bedside. I'm not saying that all BSN's and up won't work bedside but considering the burnout rate and the opportunity to move up, they more than likely will. As for RN ASN and LPN's go, we will always be at bedside due to that is where we are most qualified. Again pagendeva2000, you never offended me. You gave your opinion tactfully not hurtfully.(is hurtfully a word?)
Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.
pagendeva2000
You never said anything to offend me. My initial thread started because of what someone else had commented. (see original post). I know that we all have our rolls in healthcare but I just don't like it when someone thinks that certain or all jobs are above LPN's. I do not plan to ever work out of my scope of practice but do not like it when someone calls me (LPN) a warm body. I'm sure the LPN's who are in the role of ADON are very qualified. From what I gather she is monetarily compensated as if she were a RN in the same role. So I don't think the facility is trying to pull something on her. But enough of this subject, this war of licensure will go on until we all just work together. From what I can tell by the upcoming baby boomers, LPN's will have jobs for eternity. Like I've said before if everyone had there BSN's and up, then who would be left at the bedside. I'm not saying that all BSN's and up won't work bedside but considering the burnout rate and the opportunity to move up, they more than likely will. As for RN ASN and LPN's go, we will always be at bedside due to that is where we are most qualified. Again pagendeva2000, you never offended me. You gave your opinion tactfully not hurtfully.(is hurtfully a word?)
pagandeva2000, LPN
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If I have said anything to offend you, I sincerely apologize. It was not meant to come out as harsh or cruel, and from what I see here, maybe you took it that way. It was NOT my intention, but I don't know how you processed what was said. I also did say that I probably spoke too soon before reading that in some places, LPNs do have these positions.
As I said earlier, I jumped the gun because it is really foreign to me. When I hear ADON, I see total administrative duties that were more office related than what you have mentioned; the ADONs I saw and encountered had nothing to do with what you posted. I guess it does depend on where the location and the policy and procedures of that particular facility. I don't think that I discounted the contributions that all job titles add to patient care and didn't say or think that you were promoting doing something that I was not comfortable doing. I just never saw it happen before. I was not the person that was part of the dialogue, so, I can't speak for him/her, but from what I saw, I took it as that there wasn't an RN to take the position. We have had that happen at my job before. Not so much for ADON, but for other roles. The reason why I do think that there are skills or positions that are for RNs is that if they continue to blurr the lines, then, the LPN, in my eye, would continue to be underpaid for performing more of the services that RNs do. Anyway, again, wasn't meant to put down a title that I proudly work myself. Blessed be!