Suicide screening for all is not needed

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At my hospital every patient who comes in to the ER is supposed to be asked suicide screening questions. If they are admitted as an inpatient they are asked again. I don't think this is useful and adds to the plethora of screening questions that is overkill these days.

I don't see the point in complicating a simple or serious medical problem/evaluation with a barrage of unrelated questions. Of course there appears on the computer a complicated rating system along with the screening that is utterly formulaic and impractical.

Of course, with a psych presentation/problem these questions are appropriate and valid. But, asking the questions of people with physical complaints is opening up a can of worms. If someone with a broken arm says they attempted suicide years ago, what are we going to do? Nothing other than move on to the next question on the list, that gets longer each year.

I suspect that these sorts of policies originate from the personal grief or guilt of someone in a regulatory role in healthcare. 'If only my brother had been screened for suicide in the ER when he broke his arm last year, he'd still be alive today!'.

Exactly how do you know for sure that the chief complaint isn't related to depression/SI? Sure, not everyone is going to say they are depressed or suicidal. I assume that you've heard of patients developing somatic symptoms such as intractable abdominal pain or migraines with no cause, and that these symptoms are sometimes associated with depression, albeit not always with suicidal ideation. Apart from patients that are ones and twos on the triage scale, a few seconds for the two whole questions addressing depression and SI in our ED triage system isn't too much to ask.

You're right.

That being the case, it says absolutely nothing about effectiveness.

Specializes in Psychiatric and emergency nursing.
You're right.

That being the case, it says absolutely nothing about effectiveness.

And sometimes it isn't effective; I won't argue that point. But I would rather ask and chart that patient denied, as opposed to patient came in and hung self with bed sheet or jumped out window sometime during admission, ER triage nurse never asked about depression/SI, and therefore floor nurse and physicians were never made aware. I know it can get repetitive, trust. But it's as much a game of CYA as it is make administration happy.

But it's as much a game of CYA as it is make administration happy.

True.

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