Published Aug 15, 2009
manzanillajr
19 Posts
I am writing this page ONLY for those U.S Immigrants and U.S Citizens who would like to study in the Philippines. Other LVN's aside from these are not going to be able to come here in the U.S. Also, Philippines based schools as long as it is TESDA accredited is eligible to be given an Authority To Test for the NCLEX-PN. This link http://www.lpnboard.state.wv.us/ (PAGE 2) shows that in West Virginia the quickest way for processing as of right now, is accepting applications for ATT even if you have studied outside U.S. For the number 1 requirement, which is:
1.The applicant must have satisfactory completed a basic nursing education program approved by the appropriate
authorities in the country where the program is located. The Board may request verification of this approval
--> It does not say that LVN's are required to be currently being hired by the country of origin. As long as TESDA (Appropriate Authority) is accrediting the school then it does not matter if there are no LVN jobs in the Philippines, graduates should still be given ATT in WV.
NOTE: WV IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO TAKE NCLEX RATHER THAN APPLYING STRAIGHT TO OTHER STATES. ONCE YOU HAVE WV LICENSE JUST APPLY FOR RECIPROCITY IN THE STATE YOU INTEND TO WORK. NO NEED TO TAKE NCLEX AGAIN, JUST SUBMIT WV LICENSE AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS THEN THATS IT!!! BUT YOU MAY HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE OF FBI, DOJ BACKGROUND CHECKS.
I have read forums that hate on LVN's and discourage them to do this. I am writing to encourage them to continue their plans because it is possible as long as you are a GREEN CARD HOLDER or CITIZEN. Also they are saying that hospital jobs are starting to go slow for LVN's, they are not saying that for nursing homes, hospices, agencies, they are still currently hiring with salaries starting at 30,35k to 40k and can balloon to 60k. Also, so what if you cant find work, another 1 yr and then you can become an RN with the bridge program.
Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN
3,181 Posts
First of all in West Virginia there are no LVNs they are LPNS.
Second go to the NCLEX web page ,https://www.ncsbn.org/NCLEX_Stats_2009_Q2.pdf only 1/3 of the internationally educated nurses pass. A shameful pass rate and there are very few who pass ( only a couple of hundred).
From the West Virginia Board of nursing
Effective April 5, 2006, the following requirements must be met pursuant to the Board's Legislative
Rules, 10 C.S.R. 2:
Any applicant who was educated in a nursing program in a country located outside of the United States shall meet the
following requirements for licensure:
authorities in the country where the program is located. The Board may request verification of this approval.
There are NO licensed nurses in the Philippines therefore the board of nursing in the Philippines can't approve it.
My suggestion, if you have a legal right to be in the USA, go to school in the USA.
TESDA is the authority in the Philippines LVN = LPN so that point is not a big deal.
http://www.tesda.gov.ph/
I looked it talks about welding and seafaring, an according to the web site.
I suggest you read this thread, this is old news and your countrymen seem to disagree with you.
https://allnurses.com/philippine-nursing-forum/say-no-lpn-311473.html
Its so funny how you keep on discouraging in this thread when in fact what I have rebutted all of your hate and negativity. You can even find an old forum but it seems to me you have not read the thread or the article. Of course PNA is against LVN program, because they hate on people who study for 2 yrs and get more successful than them. You are linking me to a forum where the article is against the LVN schools that promise visa's and work in the U.S or Europe as an lvn. Yes they are right but if you have read my thread before being so negative then you will see that I am only talking about those who has green cards and are already citizens. In this case, yes it is possible.
NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN
2,487 Posts
I would also discourage people from the Philippines from taking the LVN/LPN courses because you can't even get licensed in your own country, how do you expect to get licensed in the US or any other country.
It all boils down to calling the BVN/BPN (they sometimes are lumped in with the BRN) of the state in which you want to get licensed in and request something WRITTEN that states they will accept your education prior to completing an education from that school. I'd hate to see people very disappointed because they received an education that is meaningless in their own country and also abroad. GET SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM THE BOARD OF VOCATIONAL/PRACTICAL NURSING before even signing on the dotted line. If there is a state that is willing to accept you, more power to you. Just because you can get licensed in one state as a LVN/LPN doesn't mean that you can endorce your license into another state. The other state will require you to send official transcripts and the state has a right to DENY ANYBODY even if they're licensed in aother state. Each state is different. Good Luck
I never stated that there is only one state in the U.S that is providing ATT's for the NCLEX-PN. I just offered the quickest way possible for aspirants. You may take it directly to CA or TX or whatever state but the waiting time is longer than WV. I never said that only WV accepts students from outside U.S. Also, the logic behind the fact that Philippines has no LVN jobs and does not accept LVN's therefore U.S should not hire them is completely off. First of all, its all about the curriculum and the education. It does not matter if the Philippines is not accepting LVN's, are you going to work in the Philippines? You are working in the U.S and as long as you are following the curriculum required in the U.S then it is fine. It is just like bringing one accredited school here and teaching it in another country. It's all the same because the curriculum is the same as when you teach it in the U.S. The only difference is that you pay less because labor is cheap and cost of living is cheap. TESDA a government entitiy is the body that handles LVN's and other none degree courses and training same concept as in here. Philippine Nurses Association is not a body who handles this niether is CHED because PNA is a union and CHED handles universities and colleges not technical schools.
Most LPNs are employed in Skilled Nursing facilities. These nurses perform a wonderful job and service. The US schools have several rotations in SNFS. Many programs even do several medication passes in the SNFs with an instructor. SNFs are only second to nuclear facilities for regulations. These are Federal and State regulations. Many nursing homes provide minimal orientation, now you are suggesting Americans go to these programs. Unfortaunately the stats show that 66% of international student fail the NCLEX PN and only a few hundred per year even qualify for the test. So you are saying is cheaper and same quality as the US, sorry I don't buy since the Philippines doesn't even have the Skilled Level of Care, so there is no way your system can provide the education or experience. With all the RN students in the hospital where are the PN students going to get experience. Sorry cheapest is not always the best. Considering 2/3 or 66% will never be able to practice.
How does a LVN/LPN get licensed in the Philippines, do they take an exam and are issued a license? You stated that TESDA is an entity, but does it provide a valid license for LVN/LPN?
In California, it clearly states on the website that you need to have a valid license from your country of origin before you're allowed to sit for the NCLEX-PN. If you're going to try to endorse from West Virginia to California it wont work, they're going to want to see your license from your home country along with your official transcripts.
First of all, authority to test NCLEX-PN does not require a license in the country of origin. It only requires a U.S based curriculum. And licensure requires NCLEX. Once you have WV license why would CA require you a license in the Philippines when you already are an LVN in another state. Once you pass your NCLEX-PN it already supercedes any other major requirement.
Even RN's studying outside the country has a passing rate lower than what you are stating. That does not mean that they studied in an ineligible school right? Even Lawyers and Doctors who studied outside the U.S have a passing rate lower than you are stating. Am I telling you to let the ones who fail work??? If you expect 100% passing rate on licensure exams then why is there even a licensure if the exam is that easy? Why do you have to downgrade the Philippine education when the fact is Filipinos excel in more subjects including using the English grammar than Americans?
http://www.lpnboard.state.wv.us/
http://www.bvnpt.ca.gov/pdf/endorsement.pdf
pls look at this in order.
To obtain endorsement you in CA you must be a graduate of your state approved program- it doesn't even mention the way a foreign graduate to access.
Bigger issue, why leave the USA with established programs with quick access ? Contacts you make in nursing school are wonderful ways to network. Make it easier if you wish to transfer to a RN program and most are inexpensive or cheaper than flying half way around the world and wait for access to take the NCLEX with only a 33% chance of passing.
Many PN programs have evening programs for those students who have to work and go to school. There are hardly any waiting lines and as I have said before the best place to go to nursing school is the country you wish to practice ( isn't that common sense). I can't get why people are always trying to take short cuts.