Students giving and getting report?

SassyRuca · Oct 13, 2010

Okay, I have to ask...where is the instructer and why isn't she helping you get report or listen to report on all these other people's patients? This seems like a flawed method. I have to agree....We get report from7-730am and then we start our day....we can't be waiting around much after 730am to report off/on. It may not be that they don't want students, it may be that your school's method of report is irritating them!

I'm not sure what a "modular leader" is, or why you were, apparently, leading 3 other students -- but if that's the case, then why not let each of the other 3 students listen to report on their 2-3 pts each, then have these 3 students give report to you? You can't expect up to 7 nurses to each wait her/his turn to give you report -- they have work to do!

I think the point of the exercise is to give us more responsibility. The instructor is there over seeing everything, but she wants the leader to lead a team and be able to direct care, and help problem solve together kind of like RN's do on the floor. Also it really stresses how important getting a good report is, and giving a good report. The instructor is not involved in getting report and never has been, they go over what information we need in report, what info we should be reporting ect, but never have they gotten report and gave it to us!! I am not asking or expecting anyone to stay longer, or take time away from there busy morning, but in my mind taking an extra what 3 minutes out of your morning to give me a report which will allow me to be able to give quality and safe care to your patients would kind of make your busy morning and day a little less busy..... I think the experience was amazing and eye opening. It was nice to have responsibility, and really showed the importance of communication. Remember this is our last semester we are going to need to learn sooner or later how to get and give a good report and have more responsibility... Ehhh I guess it was also a lesson on being assertive, and able to problem solve. I just think some of the nurses need to take a step down memory lane and remember what it was like. We have to report to our instructor remember what that was like? Cause most of the time I feel like I am being burned on the stake when I don't know something that "I should have gotten in report" And honestly would it be that hard to maybe go out of order with report off? Ehhh I don't know

shoegalRN, RN · Oct 14, 2010

Afrocentric's report would be too comprehensive for me...that's because our computer system has a couple of screens that supply all this info. You need to model your report after your precepting nurse...some floors do a comprehensive report like Afrocentric, our floor does a super short, touch base report.
I will make a brief attempt to wait for a student to get there so that I can give report, but in no way am I waiting to the point that I'm late getting off because I was giving report to several different people, including students. I won't get pulled into the manager's office for something like that.
Make sure the info you need isn't available elsewhere. In your example, if you were chasing after me, asking about IV stuff, I would have ignored you, too: it's on the computer, easily accessible. If you can't find it, I'd be happy to show you at some point. Just make sure you're not asking for something that you can actually easily find.
Maybe you can discuss the difficulty of getting report on so many patients with your clinical instructor. What exactly is the expectation? Does he/she really expect the floor nurses to take the time to give you an extra report? Or would a secondary report from your fellow students (like noahsmama suggests) be sufficient? How are other students able to get this report? I think your clinical instructor should be able to offer you some guidance here. If not, he/she needs to be made aware of how difficult it is to get report for all those patients. And frankly, your school isn't making any friends on the unit with such a practice, either.

When I work the floor, it's a stepdown unit with a 1:3 ratio. So, yes, it's a very detailed report, but it goes by very fast!