sentiments on some schools here in the Phils.

kiko88 · May 22, 2006

case: marine engineer. 25 y/o and not happy with sealife. environment/salary is nice though but, the relation amongst ethnic groups (local/provincial roots) are sour, kind of fake smiles and fake "good morning" greets. so much said.
recently, i have inquired admission requirments from:
fatima college(valenzuela) ---this one ain't too friendly. the envionment looks good overall--clean grounds, trees, security guards etc. downside: student population is big and guess what? they even don't have a prospectus. so i asked them: "a university doesn't give prospectus??" no curriculum list?
answer: "please just visit our web site"
ok, they got the tune but they missed the lyrics.
laconsolacion kalookan: poor environment for nursing students. no adequate facilities and most of all, no permit. (they just got the permit 1 year too late)----------end of line-----------
feu/ust: better than fatima in many ways. air conditioned rooms. very big campus. clean/secure grounds also. very nice facilities. downside: tuition fee is sky high. but what school doesn't??? so, excuse the price tag and go to the next school.
st. augustine school of nursing: now. this one is a puzzle. a newbie school that suddenly sprung from "overseas nursing demand". question: how competetive?? poor library(i have seen) and no base hospital/poor medical facility. very small area (campus??) -- everything squeezed into a 3~4 storey bldg about 150 sqm per floor.
pro: they offer 2 year "practical nursing course" / 1 year "basic nursing"they say it's a hot ticket to the us,uk and canada. wow, that's pretty something huh and great too--viewing 2 or 1 year of study, less scratch on the wallet and less scratch on the shoes. (whoa, i won't need to change my shoes every year. 4 years would saturate my wallet big time)
but, as i gather the woodsticks, a friend had just told me that pratical/basic nursing ain't gonna airlift my luggages to us, uk or canada. that literaly means i'm going to waste my hard earned money for nothing. (if that's really true and i take it so)
well, if these courses are nothing less than money burn and false hopes of future personal advancement, what could the government do/undo to ameliorate the situation?? and how come some schools are offering these courses without the proper facilities??
end of sentiment. thank you guys.
(anyone there who just had the experience?? i just blew my sentiments away) don't get the wrong end of the stick guys.

hi there! it's good to bring out your sentiments/comments about the schools. if you're still interested in nursing, there are other reputable schools in metro manila that accept 2nd coursers. but if your budget allows, we all know that it's best to go to ust/feu/uerm/plm. there's a big difference as to the quality of education that you will get from these schools. i'm just wondering if ust/feu still accepts 2nd coursers. do you have info on this?

corpuscles · May 23, 2006

^^ they dont.

- the government is already discouraging second coursers to take up nursing. and they were also proposing to make nursing a five year course. :)

- you already visited the schools. why didnt you grab the opportunity to ask them why they still offer the course without the proper facilities.

a lot of us know why.. *wink*, but its still better if the answer comes from the institution itself.

gemini_star, BSN, RN · May 26, 2006

Aside from what you mention, the only questionable question is how they can produce board passing nurses even with that situation. The only thing clear with nursing school is that the better the facilites, the higher the tuition fee also the shorter the time you finish BSN, the higher the tuition fee.

There are tons of nursing school at present and the government should close down those schools with very low perfomance and poor facilities. As for students who would like to pursue nursing, please do research about the schools before entering it.

mice david · May 26, 2006

I'm just wondering why you are trying to make phil.nursing school humiliated! Well, its just that, what school are you?Im just curious coz it seems your school offers the best among the best HUH!!!!! :madface: why don't you visit the PRC for the ranking of board passing schools then compare it with your school!!!!Be very careful judging different school facilities and teaching.......:angryfire

mice david · May 26, 2006

Yeah, your right!!Those who wants to pursue nursing career should choose the best school regardless of higher fees....Don't let poor schools dominated....

kiko88 · Jun 2, 2006

philippine nursing schools performance from 2000-2004 is shown here (with the political region for easier reference):

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:ga06ogj0rlkj:www.pcij.org/stories/2005/nursing-schools-performance1.pdf+nursing+schools+performance&hl=en &ct=clnk&cd=2

and continued below:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:o1wppgkbygkj:www.pcij.org/stories/2005/nursing-schools-performance2.pdf+nursing+schools+performance&hl=en &ct=clnk&cd=1

source is prc and pcij.org

inquire directly with the schools on their admission policies for 2nd coursers.

goodluck to all future nursing students. :nurse:

ultm · Jun 4, 2006

KIKO88,

those schools doesn't accept 2nd coursers. :)

ultm · Jun 4, 2006

mice david,

I take it you haven't got the hang of it (??) as I said, I'm a marine engineer and that would imply: this would be my first time to take nursing.

and no, I'm not making some deviating remarks. I'm trying to illustrate the scenario of this realm. com'on! Im not a realist but this is reality.

nrswnabee · Jun 4, 2006

mice david,
I take it you haven't got the hang of it (??) as I said, I'm a marine engineer and that would imply: this would be my first time to take nursing.
and no, I'm not making some deviating remarks. I'm trying to illustrate the scenario of this realm. com'on! Im not a realist but this is reality.

you sure you want to change careers? being a marine engineer seems has great perks--- travel the world for free, top dollar pay and yes, you only work by contract....you only get to work with pricks you described during your contract and adios afterwards. in whatever profession, you'll always be with people not exactly in the same wavelength. think about it....

uberdoog · Jun 5, 2006

hi seaman!

you ask an interesting question. well first, in terms of facilities, the schools will vary widely (mebbe i oughta say 'wildly'). none will be utopic, few will be western school catalogue impressive, many will be leaps of (blind, man, blind!) faith, and most - considering they've mushroomed allover the place - will be utter dumps.

your intention to find a good school is commendable but you're getting off on the wrong foot by asking which is the best school for you and measuring that by how picture purty the school is.

you see, your question includes not just a measure of the school which offers what you want (spiffy digs?) but what you bring to it (money bags?). and even if you're planning on being mr. big spender, the bad news is the top schools aren't going to make it any easier for you. you are a 2nd courser. you are older and haven't got as much time to fool around re-taking the general education courses. if you go to a top school you will have to start from ground up. you come in on the freshman level and none/few of your college credits will count for anything. (besides, i'm not sure how you're going to get credit in the nursing program for hull design or engine maintenance).

a more realistic approach would be to ask yourself what you want (a nursing degree and the competence that goes with it), what you got to offer (you know how old you are, i'm sure. and you're a second courser, besides), and what you need to get from this here point a (the philippines) to point b (the u.s.). if all it really takes is attending a rathole in downtown manila, well, what's ya gonna do? hmmm?

now, as far as the overall school ratings go, i never heard of anyone passing the philippine local board exams, the cgfns, the nclex, or the toefl/ielts on the strength of the school's name. everyone but everyone had to do their homework. in the end, the name of the school don't amount to a hill of beans: it's what you put into your study, regardless. get the drift, cap'n?

best o'luck hunting for that school, matey!

mice david,
i take it you haven't got the hang of it (??) as i said, i'm a marine engineer and that would imply: this would be my first time to take nursing.
and no, i'm not making some deviating remarks. i'm trying to illustrate the scenario of this realm. com'on! im not a realist but this is reality.

ultm · Jun 5, 2006

that's nice uberdoog.

yes. I know what i got to offer and what i need to lose.

i want to take that PN/CNA course. I'm not so sure if those courses are "profitable" on my part--you know--. I don't want to loll around armchairs and I ain't gonna burn some money for nothing.

the crux: is PN/CNA really a good (or better) ticket to elsewhere? (say Canada for instance)

sentiments on *some* schools here in the Phils.

sentiments on some schools here in the Phils.