Rumour about CNM education.......

ayndim · Feb 12, 2005

Hi there- I'm new to the site and came specifically to ask this question-
I had a conversation with NP the other day who told me that she got her education this way: she had a BA in a totally unrelated field, then went on to get her masters as a NP with a certificate in nursing. She told me that this was possible to do in Nurse midwifery as well. I have a BA in something else, and had started my nursing education, but stopped with the birth of my child... I'd really like to go back, and if this is an option, i'd like to check it out. Have any of you heard of this and if so, what schools offer it? I'd love to do more research on this hopefully real option.
Thanks!
Heather

I have heard of it. Of course you wouldn't be a CNM but a CM. I also have a degree but have decided to go the CNM route. One the CM is a little too new for me to be comfortable with. I think the nursing experience is invaluable. I am not quite sure how CM's are accepted by the states and if they have prescriptive authority. They do take the same test as CNM's and are accredited by ACNM. However, in most states CNM's are regulated by the BON (NY is the only exception I can think of off-hand). So where do CM's fall? Are they treated by states like other direct-entry. Like I said it is a little too new for me to be comfortable with speding all that money on an education and then maybe not be any more accepted than a LM/CPM.

But I am taking my last nursing pre-req so I am in a different situation. I see a CNM personally. I honestly don't think I would go to a CM. I like the fact that CNM's are nurses.

Go to http://www.acnm.org for more info on the CM and a list of where it is offered.

I looked at the ACNM programs offering a CM and it appears on Suny downstate does. If someone else knows somewhere else, let me know.

Here is the website and pre-reqs.

http://www.hscbklyn.edu/CHRP/Midwif/p5.html

All SUNY Downstate midwifery students must possess a baccalaureate degree. In addition, direct entry candidates are required to have successfully completed college level courses in:

biology, chemistry, microbiology, anatomy and physiology

(2 semesters with lab), developmental (life-span) psychology,

psychology, sociology, pathophysiology, nutrition, and statistics.

As far as I know NP's and CNM's who came in with another degree still had to complete the nursing classes and get the required experience (1 year for all NP's except acute care who need 2 and 1 year for CNM's).

SJSU_Mami · Feb 12, 2005

Yeah, you could do it..

http://www.ucsf.edu

Check the nursing links..

naggytabby, BSN, RN · Feb 12, 2005

Yes you can get a certificate as an RN at some of the direct entry programs and go onto become a CNM (RN/MSN or MS)- not a CM. Other programs have a BSN/MSN (or MS). Go to the acnm website and hook into their education section.

enjoy!!!

BETSRN · Feb 13, 2005

Hi there- I'm new to the site and came specifically to ask this question-
I had a conversation with NP the other day who told me that she got her education this way: she had a BA in a totally unrelated field, then went on to get her masters as a NP with a certificate in nursing. She told me that this was possible to do in Nurse midwifery as well. I have a BA in something else, and had started my nursing education, but stopped with the birth of my child... I'd really like to go back, and if this is an option, i'd like to check it out. Have any of you heard of this and if so, what schools offer it? I'd love to do more research on this hopefully real option.
Thanks!
Heather

Yale University's three year program is for those with a non-nursing Bachelor's. It is VERY intensive, not to metion expensive.

here is the home page. http://nursing.yale.edu/

Good luck.

Gennaver, MSN · Feb 13, 2005

Hi there- I'm new to the site and came specifically to ask this question-
I had a conversation with NP the other day who told me that she got her education this way: she had a BA in a totally unrelated field, then went on to get her masters as a NP with a certificate in nursing. She told me that this was possible to do in Nurse midwifery as well. I have a BA in something else, and had started my nursing education, but stopped with the birth of my child... I'd really like to go back, and if this is an option, i'd like to check it out. Have any of you heard of this and if so, what schools offer it? I'd love to do more research on this hopefully real option.
Thanks!
Heather

Hello there,

You may want to take a look at the pre-nursing student forums here also as there are several of us direct entry applicants, (and a couple accepted!)

Gennaver

parteiranagua · Feb 14, 2005

I have heard of it. Of course you wouldn't be a CNM but a CM. I also have a degree but have decided to go the CNM route. One the CM is a little too new for me to be comfortable with. I think the nursing experience is invaluable. I am not quite sure how CM's are accepted by the states and if they have prescriptive authority. They do take the same test as CNM's and are accredited by ACNM. However, in most states CNM's are regulated by the BON (NY is the only exception I can think of off-hand). So where do CM's fall? Are they treated by states like other direct-entry. Like I said it is a little too new for me to be comfortable with speding all that money on an education and then maybe not be any more accepted than a LM/CPM.
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CM and CNM are following the exact same curriculum accredited by ACNM and ACC for Boards. They graduate with a MS. Theyare not therefore treated differently by boards..However, the prescriptive authority will vary from state to state for both CNM and CM (NY Vs LA for exemple).
Some CNM preceptors are having diffculties accepting students who do not have a nursing experience and L&D experience, and clinical sites are difficult to find unless u are a student at NYU or Yale...
Some student catch up right away, some take more time it really depends on the individual and the preceptor... no generelization here!!!
Ginny Doula RN and SNM