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HI Nate, Same thing here... The school I graduated from was at that time chaired by a highly valuable male CNM, who is still, if i am not mistaken, part of the ACNM board.. He is also director of Global Education in a highly respected Non for Profit affiliated to a vary prestigious university. So go for it!!! Parteiranagua

will do blue eyes!!!! Take care!!!

This is absurd!! The majority of Ob GYN are conservative, patronizing..... And the consumer is entitled to informed choice!!! I am inviting you to go to AWHON guidelines at national clearing house as well as Lamaze to get more info. In what world are we living????

HI went to the site, but I dont quite understand the purpose of the site, who barely explains its goals, perspectives and stategies to reach zero Birth injuries.. To start with, what kind of injuries? The ones due to iatrogenic and invasive interventions in hospitals or the unevitable accident that can happen to anyone at anytime and anywhere? I would love more details and description of this iniative.

Needless to comment on the Doc's attitude.. However only a few of us have commented on the latest evidence about labor management and maternal fetal outcomes... And why not coming back and show a good report study proving him that he may not only be wrong but also dangerous? Just my 2 cents,, lets use the same weapons thy are shoving down our throats, as women, clients and.... nurses..

oh ok!!! never mind !! yes we agree!!!! ginny :rotfl:

well yeah!!! did I say something else?? LOLL Ginny

Agree, hence the uterine arteries irrigating the uterus and placenta do not have as much blood to irrigate the placenta, it also increases renal perfusion therefore decreasing BP especially in the case of preeclampsia or hypertension. Ginny Doula RN SNM

no I am just curious if it has happened to you and what internal protocols do u follow. Ginny RN SNM

Did u have to deliver a bb b/c the doc or MW did not make it in time? how do u proceed? what was our experience? Ginny SNM RN Doula

The way I see it? slippery sloppe of self defensive obstetrics where Ob dont have the time to really and seriously think about their actions ... much pressure and fear about law suits and peer pressure. Plus this paradigm shuts them off to lift their head above the water to breathe and seing other alternatives.. i have seen ssooo many inductions staying several days of pit off and on to finish by C/s. As of becoming a voice of reason i dont know, nurses dont always believe there is another way, peer pressure is also a big issue (evaluations etc..) and voicing alone can be soo frustrating.. Ginny Doula OB RN SNM

There are sociologists like Suzanne Arms and Robbie davis floyd as well as Marsten Wagner (also an MD) who are specialized in the childbirth sociology and who are have done extremely sensitive and fine analysis of the past and current trends of the C/s situation in the US. Their researches are well grounded and serious and this is maybe what this sociology teacher was reffering to. The WHO recommands a percentage (5 to 15%) that is well under our national current rate (29%). Ginny Doula OB RN SNM

I think i was not clear enough when tlaking of CM /Vs CNM. I was not referring to DEM but to CM, that is certified Midwifes who are trained in ACNM accredited prgrams and board certified by ACNM. DEM are certified through MANA. CM do not have any nursing experience and graduate as CM and not as CNM. However they perform the same job and have the same training. This is fairly new and students are recruted at a bachelor level. Down state SUNY does it and u can go to their site to see the curriculum if interested. Ginny Doula RN BSN SNM

yes indeed we have as seen in previous posts as well... just a reminder.. :) Ginny Doula RN BSN SNM

ok girls!!!! stop right here.... u probably are aware that some midwives were not trained as nurses before entering MW school. So where do they stand? they have the same accreditation and training!!!! Ginny Doula RN BSN SNM