restraint/seclusion order question

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Hi everyone,

So on our physician order form for restraint and seclusion (which we often get the order as a verbal from the Dr.) there are check boxes for "type of restraint/seclusion" and the little boxes to select for: seclusion, manual restraint, physical extremity restraints, etc. My question is, what if you initially start the patient out in locked seclusion (less restrictive measure than restraints in most cases) and then they escalate and end up needing physical restraint (extremities) as well? When you first put them in seclusion, you may very well not know that they are going to end up requiring extremity restraints as well. So, on the order, if you get a verbal for seclusion and then they end up needing extremity restraints, do you need a whole new order and have to call the Dr again? Once our psychiatrists leave, we use the hospitalist to call for restraint orders. How do you handle this in terms of your orders? I have often seen locked seclusion patients requiring physical restraints when the seclusion does not manage them.

thanks so much for any input!

this is our set-up too. so if the seclusion door remained open with the patient in restraints, it would just be considered "restraint" and not "restraint and seclusion," right?

Well, technically, whether the door is open or closed, locked or unlocked, if you are physically preventing the person from leaving the room (which you are, by having the individual in restraints), that is seclusion. It is a common misperception that "seclusion" isn't seclusion" if the door is unlocked. According to the CMS and Joint Commission definitions (and, again, probably your state mental health rules), if the person is being prevented from leaving the room when s/he chooses, that's seclusion, even if the door is standing wide open (but a staff member is standing outside, telling the person that s/he is not allowed to leave).

that totally makes sense to me. Thanks so much for taking the time to explain all this. So, if the setup is that the restraint bed is in the seclusion room, if the patient is restrained, even if the door is left open, the order would be for physical restraint AND seclusion (since the person is prevented from leaving the seclusion room since they are restrained)? Also, manual restraint if they needed to physically be brought to the seclusion room.

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Hi I work in elderly care with dementia on a specialised challenging behaviour unit. Myself and my staff are trained in N.A.P.P.I techniques and at times have to restrainn and seclude residents for their own safety. I consider nursing ethics everytime an incident occurs and they have to be secluded , because they are elderly people but can be veryviolent . As nurse in charge it is hard to make a decision about when to declude and restrain as it can result in the resudent getting a skin tear or bruise.

that totally makes sense to me. Thanks so much for taking the time to explain all this. So, if the setup is that the restraint bed is in the seclusion room, if the patient is restrained, even if the door is left open, the order would be for physical restraint AND seclusion (since the person is prevented from leaving the seclusion room since they are restrained)? Also, manual restraint if they needed to physically be brought to the seclusion room.

Yes, you are correct. And, yes, if you are physically carrying/dragging an individual to the seclusion room, you need a separate restraint order for the part where you physically take them to the seclusion room in order to put them in seclusion. This is something we cited hospitals for a lot when I was a psych surveyor for my state and CMS.

one last question I promise! :) when a patient is going into limb restraints, and staff is holding them down while the restraints are retrieved/applied, would the order have to specify 'manual restraint' in addition to 'physical restraint'? (I am assuming the pt did not need carried down to the room where the restraints are) or would 'physical restraint' alone cover this? thanks again!!

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I work in 250 bed acute care psychiatric hospital. We require and order for both manual restraint in addition to the limb restraints. I would check with your hospital administration and hospital policies as to how they want that situation handled. My assumption would be having an order for both.

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