llg, Answer to your question, NO. Reason if there is a good one and I agree there really isn't. I should join a minimum of the ANA, and today I will. However, even though I do take issue with the...
Ok, I am posting again to keep this thread alive and well! Part of my caring inherent in my infrastructure as a nurse. (laugh) Food for thought. If the above figures are reasonably accurrate,...
llg, Thank you for the site! This will be very useful. 2.2 million RN's ! Doesn't include the LPN's or LVN's! Woweeeeeee! Much better than I thought! I think 2.2 million people as an organized...
Thank you Suzy, That's a lot! I hope llg's figures confirm that. I read that figure somewhere too, but an unable to find my source. I put them in one of those special places....if you can find the...
OK, Quick questions. 1. How many RN's, LPN's, and LVN's respectively, in the USA? 2. What source would be the most feasible if no one can answer Question #1? 3. How is change initiated? First...
llg, First, I apologize. I realize that the ANA and NLN have been doing this for years with some degree of effectiveness, but also lacking a lot as far as a uniform policy or governing body. State...
llg, Doctor, I agree that forming a consensus of nursing school deans to adopt such a policy would be difficult. However, it has been done before, that is how we became saddled by the nursing...
Great! llg, Suzy, WashYaHands, rncountry, I really like what is being done here. WashYaHands made a culimating point in her post...that I really like and was not aware even existed. Having a quick...
rncountry, Thank you! You wouldn't believe how much I had to pay my cousin to write that!(Laugh) I like all your ideas as well, and we are getting there....slowly. I do think your point about...
llg, Thank you for your thoughts. I am truly amazed at how much we are in agreement. You made many points that have logical and valid basis. Actually I feel we are rewording each other. It seems...
Hey Vettech, Honest input? There are areas of nursing where one doesn't have to possess "social skills" and still do wonderfully good nursing. I remember loving the technical end of a working in a...
llg, After having read and reread all your posts regarding this thread, I conclude that your message is that higher education should direct it efforts so that nursing reaches a pinnacle of...
Dr. Kate, First of all, welcome. I agree that philosophy, caring, caring for, models, and framework of our profession have been muddied and distorted and interchanged in this discussion. I also agree...
Ok llg, I graduated from nursing school in 1977. I had so much caring dumped on me that it made me reach for the emesis tray...even now. My mother graduated from nursing school in 1950. She still...
Either would be nice. The basis of the debate here has condensed down to where the priorities are in nursing and what is really important to the patient to justify our profession. What is the criteria...
Hey Suzy, Here's something, construct a poll. Could ya would ya? Do physicians care? Do they have to care? Does it make them any less a good/bad physician? Do CNA's care? Same questions? How about...
Dr. llg I respect your opinions, I really do, and I am thrilled that someone in the upper echleon will at least admit or agree that nursing schools need vast improvement in scientific basis. I submit...
Suzy, Somebody has to do the heavy-lifting! I am thrilled that you are undertaking this...it is something that desperately needs to be done. I remember one really good instructor from school, there...
Just to add a little more fuel to the fire, and I in no way mean to be controversial, but I think you are really on to something here Suzy, in helping nurses. Ironically, the nursing process itself...
Suzy, I am all for you. Do something that makes sense....PUHLEEZ! I think it is interesting and congratulate you on your efforts. Will we get to read it and burn it if we don't like it? (laugh)...
Wow Jim, What a wonderful article. I have been needing some kind of validation of this since nursing school in 1977. I remember when I did a psyche paper in nursing school, I went through hours and...
NRSKarenRN, The care you provided to the CHF patient is, in my opinion, excellent. It is similar to what I am accustomed to, working on a burn unit, conversing with family, and getting the point...
Micro said it all in one sentence. "The caring side of it....comes from a small % from nursing school, and a large % from experience, and just in who I am...." Who was first, the chicken or the...
I think it is like "Which was first, the chicken or the egg?" Obviously a nurse has to care, care enough to be competent and do the best for the pt that can be done...but it doesn't mean one has to...