Pre-reqs change MCC

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It seems they changed pre-reqs and there are only 5 classes now. BIO202 and BIO205 are co-reqs now as well as ENG101.

Specializes in OR, Telemetry, PCCU, Med/Surg.

I don't think you are able to take the actual nursing classes without being in the program. They want to keep the class size very limited to ensure quality. So you can not take any NUR classes.

I believe that it is 5 PLUS partnerships. At least for the Banner program, because you have to have applied to the MCC nursing programs before you can even apply to the Banner program. However, I am not 100% about that.

The Banner program is tough from what I've heard. It's an accelerated program, so it will only take 16 months, but it's hard to combine with working full-time. I don't know if you're interested in private schools at all, but Ethel Bauer (IIA) has free on-site daycare for their nursing school students. However, I have heard many different opinions on the program. :)

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I don't think you are able to take the actual nursing classes without being in the program. They want to keep the class size very limited to ensure quality. So you can not take any NUR classes.

I believe that it is 5 PLUS partnerships. At least for the Banner program, because you have to have applied to the MCC nursing programs before you can even apply to the Banner program. However, I am not 100% about that.

The Banner program is tough from what I've heard. It's an accelerated program, so it will only take 16 months, but it's hard to combine with working full-time. I don't know if you're interested in private schools at all, but Ethel Bauer (IIA) has free on-site daycare for their nursing school students. However, I have heard many different opinions on the program. :)

The accelerated pace is what really interests me.. if I did it at a CC, I'd be working full time as a programmer and then taking classes in the morning or night. I worry that my tight schedule may preclude me from getting the personal experience I would need for the hands-on stuff.

I'll check out Ethel - although the daycare is more for when I'm at work then when I'm at school :(

Thanks for the feedback though, I'm pretty sure I'll find a way to make it work :)

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Specializes in OR, Telemetry, PCCU, Med/Surg.

Also, Gateway has a weekend program. A friend of mine as a single mom and has two little ones as well. She got into the weekend program and continued to work full-time throughout the entire program. It's technically accelerated, but because there's only 2 days of class a week, it takes 24 months to complete.

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Also, Gateway has a weekend program. A friend of mine as a single mom and has two little ones as well. She got into the weekend program and continued to work full-time throughout the entire program. It's technically accelerated, but because there's only 2 days of class a week, it takes 24 months to complete.

That would be interesting.. I was doing the math and full time at 12 credits means you're doing 2-3 hours of school a day. However if there are labs, I remember that's an extra hour somewhere once a week too.. it could get very stressful trying to fit in 10 hours of commute+work and 2-4 hours of school into the same day.. AND making dinner and helping kids with homework lol. Especially if it's just me.

I could come in late/leave early from work, but doubtful that I could routinely do it 5 days a week without issues from management.

But taking time during the week to study is always a possibility. I'll check it out - I'm so happy AZ has so many opportunities.. I'd hate to be in a state more spread out than we are. Gateway's a good 50 or so miles from me but it's not much further than the day job so on a weekend that wouldn't be absolutely terrible *shrug*

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so, if i understand the "co-requisite" terminology - this means that you are encouraged to take those classes with your nursing program in order to go to the next block. but, i understand that the rigors of the nursing program are very strenuous to begin with. i (fortunately) have completed all of my pre-reqs and would be afraid to combine some of those with the nursing program. what do you guys think?

also, knorremeisje, are you allowed to take the bsn nursing 300 level courses for the rn-bsn degree without taking the nur200 classes from the nursing program (blocks)?

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so, if i understand the "co-requisite" terminology - this means that you are encouraged to take those classes with your nursing program in order to go to the next block. but, i understand that the rigors of the nursing program are very strenuous to begin with. i (fortunately) have completed all of my pre-reqs and would be afraid to combine some of those with the nursing program. what do you guys think?

also, knorremeisje, are you allowed to take the bsn nursing 300 level courses for the rn-bsn degree without taking the nur200 classes from the nursing program (blocks)?

i just finished the program and i wouldn't recommend to anyone that they take bio 202 or 205 while in any block. those classes are very time consuming (lecture, lab, lots of memorization, etc) i'm guessing that they were made co-requisites so people would be able to apply to the program and then take those bio classes while they are waiting to get in, this way there won't be a lag of 1-2 years between taking the bio classes and entering the actual nursing program. you really need a very solid understanding of a&p (and micro) in order to do well in the program. there is no review of those subjects in the regular nursing classes.

also, i believe that the classes that knorrmeisje is referring to are the "other" prerequisites that asu requires for their regular bsn or rn-bsn program (there are some hcr, statistics, and humanities classes that asu requires in addition to what is required at the cc's. you can visit their website for updated information....i hope this helps.....

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Specializes in OR, Telemetry, PCCU, Med/Surg.

Also, I believe that the classes that knorrmeisje is referring to are the "other" prerequisites that ASU requires for their regular BSN or RN-BSN program (there are some HCR, statistics, and humanities classes that ASU requires in addition to what is required at the cc's. You can visit their website for updated information....I hope this helps.....

Yeah, I was talking about Nutrition, Statistics, Humanities, all the Awareness classes, etc. There's another year of pre-req's to get into the ASU program once you've finished the MCC pre-req's...

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It seems they changed pre-reqs and there are only 5 classes now. BIO202 and BIO205 are co-reqs now as well as ENG101.

That list of co-reqs is kind of scary. At least the wait lists are so long, the smart students will get them out of the way before nursing school starts. Once you are in the program, you will barely have the time to do the core nursing work, let alone take that huge list of co-reqs. If you have to work and do co-reqs - very tough. Scary, scary, scary...

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So, if I understand the "co-requisite" terminology - this means that you are encouraged to take those classes with your nursing program in order to go to the next block. BUT, I understand that the rigors of the nursing program are very strenuous to begin with. I (fortunately) have completed all of my pre-reqs and would be afraid to combine some of those with the nursing program. What do you guys think?

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I think you are absolutely correct. The thought of doing co-reqs and core nursing classes is insane. Especially if you are working. Block I is a breeze, but the pace gets pretty intense by Block III - absolute insanity by Block IV. I was in a 16-month program, though. If you have all summer to take co-reqs, that is another thing. But I'd hate to do them all in one summer - especially Bio 202 and Bio 205.

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That list of co-reqs is kind of scary. At least the wait lists are so long, the smart students will get them out of the way before nursing school starts. Once you are in the program, you will barely have the time to do the core nursing work, let alone take that huge list of co-reqs. If you have to work and do co-reqs - very tough. Scary, scary, scary...

You can say that again :)

I'm a procrastinator but I'm also aware of what I'm up against in my situation. There will be lots of people I'm sure who will feel they can finish a couple semesters, submit the app under the new pre-req requirements, and relax.

Then when they're taking NUR classes PLUS co-reqs, they'll start feeling it.

Ideally like someone above pointed out, you'd want to submit the app ASAP, go right back to taking BIO202, etc. and then even go further and pick up some BSN classes if you feel your future involves a BSN.

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I want to take the medical terminology course while I am waiting and I really need an A&P refresher. Any suggestions for a refresher course without taking it over again? Thanks for you thoughts, I knew I wasn't crazy.

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I want to take the medical terminology course while I am waiting and I really need an A&P refresher. Any suggestions for a refresher course without taking it over again? Thanks for you thoughts, I knew I wasn't crazy.

Hmm, I thought I had the link .. ah just logged into the work PC and found it - this girl grabbed notes from her A&P classes - I'm going to use these a lot when I get close to taking mine :)

https://allnurses.com/forums/f198/p-1-spring-08-a-257113-9.html

They're just from AP1 right now, but I think there are more further into the thread.. hope it helps :)

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