Horrible Professor!

Nursing Students Pre-Nursing

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I was curious if anyone else has dealt with this and what you did about it?

I just finished my Chem pre-req with the worst and hardest teacher. He never actually "taught" anything. Just threw a bunch of notes on the board. Things we did not learn and that were not part of our lectures, labs etc consistently showed up on our exams.

More than half of my class actually signed a petition to the Dean of Sciences at my school (and it would have been more of the class had I had enough time to talk to more people). And the only response we got was that she would discuss it with him.

It is incredibly frustrating that I studied my butt off and I had an A- the whole semester until the last two tests where more questions showed up that were not part of our curriculum, equalling an entire grade difference. I'm pretty sure I will end with a B or B+ average for the class. Which I would happily accept if it was my fault for not knowing the material.

But given that my entire class of 30 students all got the same 3 questions wrong on the last test, and we all met after our final and agreed on several questions on that test that we never saw before... that has to say more about the teacher, not us, I would think.

We've all gone to tutoring, and honestly that is the only way I have the grades I do. But there really is no way to prepare for a test that consistently has trick and new questions that were not part of the curriculum on it.

My program does accept a B, but it's the principle. Anyone ever have something like this happen to them?

I just have a hard time believing that professors are putting material on exams that students have no access to. I've never had this happen to me, and I think the professor could get in trouble for doing that as the exams are supposed to be covering comprehensive material learned in class (the book is also fair game obviously).

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I just have a hard time believing that professors are putting material on exams that students have no access to. I've never had this happen to me and I think the professor could get in trouble for doing that as the exams are supposed to be covering comprehensive material learned in class (the book is also fair game obviously).[/quote']

It has happened so many times. I've seen my own professors do it. If a professor doesn't want to be teaching a class, they will make your life miserable in terms of testing and material being tested.

As for getting in trouble, as I've mentioned before a lot of professors get away with things because the school turns a blind eye or "discusses it with the professor".

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I suppose so, I've had situations where it appeared as if the exams were unfair, but upon further investigation I've always found the answers were in the literature. But maybe I am a rare case.

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I suppose so I've had situations where it appeared as if the exams were unfair, but upon further investigation I've always found the answers were in the literature. But maybe I am a rare case.[/quote']

Some professors do it as an ego trip. It's sad :(

I've seen professors bully certain students, being outright rude and insensitive, even being sexist, and saying extremely inappropriate things.

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You obviously weren't thorough enough then. Gen chem is basic math and basic chemistry concepts. Any information you need is in the book. It is not complicated.

You really do love to make assumptions, don't you?!

This was actually Organic Chemistry and Bio-Chemistry. I got an A in General Chem, but thanks for adding your non-constructive comments.

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Yet another unintended consequence of the recent depression. Time was when a lot of really good teachers were available to nursing schools because they could work part time in hospitals for the extra cash and take advantage of a working spouse's benefits package. Now the spouse's job is gone, the kids' college fund got depleted for living expenses because of that, so the nurse can't afford to take a 50% pay cut (oh yes) to go from staff nursing to teaching.

I used to get calls all the time from local schools of nursing asking me to teach. I loved teaching students, did it for years in several programs, but you know what? I am the sole support of my household now, and I can't do it on $45K for nine months and $0K for three. I don't know how they are going to replace those of "me" that are left once we all reach retirement age. Well, maybe this thread gives us a clue.

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I suppose so, I've had situations where it appeared as if the exams were unfair, but upon further investigation I've always found the answers were in the literature. But maybe I am a rare case.

Then you obviously shouldn't be commenting and making comments to something you know nothing about.

As I've stated, I take my schooling pretty seriously. I'm not a jerk who is just going to whine because I felt a test was unfair because something showed up that wasn't in lecture but was in the book.

No... I THOUROUGHLY (since for whatever reason you want to make the assumption that I am not thorough), go through every answer I get wrong to determine what the correct answer is. I do this by checking back through my notes, the book, with the tutoring center, and also online. The three major questions that not just myself, but my entire class, took offense to, could not be found by utilizing ANY of the above. That is what makes them unfair.

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Organic chemistry and bio-chemistry were a pre-requisite for my California nursing school. You are a bit arrogant aren't you?

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I don't believe you. You stated in your original post that you just finished your pre req Chem class...Ochem nor biochem are pre req for nursing school. Not to mention Ochem is a pre req to biochem as well. Good try though. See, i started out as a chem major before I switched to math/physics...so I know this as fact.

Gen chem is a prereq for an Ochem/biochem combination course.

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Also note, integral calculs is a pre req to bio chem...I assume you all took calc I and calc II as well?

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Yes but Ochem is a pre req to biochem. And neither are a pre req for nursing.

For a combination organic chemistry and biochemistry for health professionals course requires general chemistry. Sometimes, it's just chemistry and biochem combinatory course, where you'd have to pass some lower math course or test out of it.

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For a combination organic chemistry and biochemistry for health professionals course requires general chemistry. Sometimes, it's just chemistry and biochem combinatory course, where you'd have to pass some lower math course or test out of it.

Ah that explains everything. "For health professionals", I should have known better. So its not real biochemistry. Well that makes perfect sense then.

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