Anyone graduated from a clinical nurse leader program? - page 5

I'm applying to a direct-entry clinical nurse leader program right now and I'm curious to know whether there are any students or graduates of such programs out there that can talk about their... Read More

  1. by   ♪♫ in my ♥
    Quote from nursemusic
    So it's possible to be discrete with your DEMSN? Were you treated like any other RN? ((I had thoughts of getting harrassed because everyone would know, or my supervisor would have told my coworkers ahead of time, or something paranoid like that.))
    Sure, it's quite possible. I did have to ask them not to put MSN on my name badge which they didn't mind.

    The biggest concern is when the bias flows from the management themselves. I don't know personally how much this happens.

    Also, do CNLs replace hospital social workers, or are they on different terf completely?
    Very few hospitals actually have CNLs so it's really hard to say what they do or don't do. The idea isn't for the CNL to replace anybody... it's to forge a new role. That said, it sure looks a whole lot like case management though with more of a bedside clinical planning component.
  2. by   CCRNDiva
    Let me play devil's advocate for a minute. I know that the intentions of those who started the clinical nurse leader program had good intentions, but maybe it is the title that is throwing people off. I must admit that when I first came across these programs I was shocked that someone without nursing experience can have the title of a nurse leader. Maybe they should have given it another title. I must admit, though, I am starting to see clarification of the degree and role on school websites. I think working nurses are frustrated because a lot of what is listed in the job description of the CNL is what we as bedside nurses do for our patients in the ICU. I've even heard nursing instructors complain or question the validity of this new CNL role.

    I also notice a lot of attention being paid to 2nd degree and alternate entry MSN programs throughout academia. It just seems odd that someone can go through 15 months of a nursing program but they are considered more valuable/attractive than an ADN or diploma RN. I feel like I'm scratching and clawing my way into a MSN program with 7 yrs of ICU experience.

    It all boils down to the divisive nature we,, as nurses have as a whole. If we could somehow learn to work together we could accomplish so much! We are the largest profession of healthcare professionals; it's time we start acting like it!!