Thomas Jefferson FACT Program - page 6

Hi. I have been accepted into the TJU FACT program that begins in May but the orientation isn't until a week before classes begin and I would like to get a better idea of the scheduling. I know... Read More

  1. by   soccer
    As far as finding a job, honestly, it was hard b/c there were a overflow of new grads in May. So I know Jefferson had a hiring freeze, but I heard they are now hiring new grads again right now. I am moving out of state and I know when I was looking out of state I found lots of nursing jobs. There are jobs out there but they may not be exactly what you want. I don't start until October b/c I am doing a residency program but I know a lot of people from my class didn't have a job after they graduated. It helped it you did a nurse externship, but Jeff highly recommends that you don't work so its kind of a lose/lose situation. You will end up getting a job but it may not be as soon as you graduate. Plus, I didn't take my boards until the beginning of July so you will graduate in the end of May but you may not get the ok to test until late June/early July. I would recommend taking the test before you start work.
  2. by   Accelerated25
    Thank you very much Soccer for your explanation!
    It is kind of sad that you had troubles to find a job after graduation.
    Yes, I also thought about externship, because after that It would be easier to find a job. I know that Eastern University (it is 30 minutes from Phily) has the same program, but it it 2 years like Accelerated Pathway in Thomas Jefferson, so they encourage their students to have externship after the first year of study. Actually, I applied there too, the price is the same as one year in Thomas Jefferson about 30.000$ for two years. It is only one thing that I don't like that it is 2 years of study and commuting every day. So, we will see....
    I wish you good luck with you residency program and future job!!!!!!!! I am sure you will do just fine, Soccer!!!!!!
  3. by   JerseyGir1
    Quote from soccer
    As far as finding a job, honestly, it was hard b/c there were a overflow of new grads in May. So I know Jefferson had a hiring freeze, but I heard they are now hiring new grads again right now. I am moving out of state and I know when I was looking out of state I found lots of nursing jobs. There are jobs out there but they may not be exactly what you want. I don't start until October b/c I am doing a residency program but I know a lot of people from my class didn't have a job after they graduated. It helped it you did a nurse externship, but Jeff highly recommends that you don't work so its kind of a lose/lose situation. You will end up getting a job but it may not be as soon as you graduate. Plus, I didn't take my boards until the beginning of July so you will graduate in the end of May but you may not get the ok to test until late June/early July. I would recommend taking the test before you start work.
    Hi Soccer... current FACT student here. I am really interested in nurse residency programs for new grads (and also moving out of state)... How was it getting accepted to one? Are they competitive? To me, it seems like such a better deal than being thrown right in to an RN position. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks : )
  4. by   soccer
    Well when you get into the 3rd or beginning of the 4th quarter I recommend looking for places your interested in. I found most hospitals that have a residency program have set dates they start so I knew a lot started in June or early July. I knew I wouldn't have my boards done and I didn't want to risk moving and stressing about studying for the boards. Some would offer another round around October. I decided it was worth the wait. I interviewed with a hospital in Tucson but turned it down. I didn't get a good vibe from the manager on that floor. I also looked at places in Cali but they are competitive so I would contact the hospitals your really interested in and speak to the HR or nurse recruiters and see what you need to do.
    Some make you type a little essay, get two references, etc. I am working in TX and I had a good experience from everyone I spoke with in the hospital. I will get 5 months of training. So hopefully I will be well prepared b/c I have spoke to others who feel like they are not prepared and only got like 6weeks of training. Its scary b/c that is your license on the line.
    I hope this helps.
  5. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from Accelerated25
    Hello AtomicWoman!!!!
    I read many of your comments. They are very helpful!!! As far as I understood, you are currently in the FACT program. I think, I am going to be there in 2009!
    If you have a little free time, could you, please, tell me what books they require for Health Assesment and Medical Calculations classes? I would like to start reading theory right now in order not to be overwhelmed later.
    Thank you for your time!
    Actually, I'm not in the program quite yet. You are probably thinking of of Bailey728, who has answered all of my questions so patiently. My interview is tomorrow. I've been through this before, b/c I was accepted to another program at Jeff. But for a bunch of reasons, FACT makes the most sense for me at this point in my life. Whatever program, Jefferson has always been my #1 choice for a nursing school.

    Once we all get our acceptance letters, we can help each other get ready. I told my family I am basically going to disappear for a year. LOL I can't wait!
  6. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from Accelerated25
    I think, if I read some theory before the program starts, it will be easier for me in the process. Even if they change anything, I am sure, the main idea will be the same. What do you think about it, soccer?
    Accelerated, take a deep breath. Now exhale. Now inhale. Now exhale.

    We might as well enjoy these months, because that 1 year is going to be intense. Besides, they may very well change the books between now and May. So relax. You're going to be fine!
  7. by   Accelerated25
    Quote from AtomicWoman
    Actually, I'm not in the program quite yet. You are probably thinking of of Bailey728, who has answered all of my questions so patiently. My interview is tomorrow. I've been through this before, b/c I was accepted to another program at Jeff. But for a bunch of reasons, FACT makes the most sense for me at this point in my life. Whatever program, Jefferson has always been my #1 choice for a nursing school.

    Once we all get our acceptance letters, we can help each other get ready. I told my family I am basically going to disappear for a year. LOL I can't wait!
    Hello AtomicWoman!
    I am sorry, I thought you were in the program! But it is fine! That's true, once we all get accepted we can help each other more! I can not wait either! I am very excited!!!!!
    Good luck in your interview tomorrow!!!!!!!
    I am sure, everything will be fine!!!!!
  8. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from soccer
    As far as finding a job, honestly, it was hard b/c there were a overflow of new grads in May. So I know Jefferson had a hiring freeze, but I heard they are now hiring new grads again right now. I am moving out of state and I know when I was looking out of state I found lots of nursing jobs. There are jobs out there but they may not be exactly what you want. I don't start until October b/c I am doing a residency program but I know a lot of people from my class didn't have a job after they graduated. It helped it you did a nurse externship, but Jeff highly recommends that you don't work so its kind of a lose/lose situation. You will end up getting a job but it may not be as soon as you graduate.
    This is my new mantra for myself: Do 2 Years Anywhere. Do 2 Years Anywhere. Do 2 Years Anywhere. ("Anywhere" preferably meaning a hospital, since it seems a lot of hospitals don't consider 2 years at an LTC facility the same as 2 years at a hospital. But if that's the only type of job I can get, I'll take it.)

    The Philly job market has gotten so tough, I'm pretty much figuring that it's unlikely I'll get that "dream job" right out of school. (Not that I won't try for it, but I'm not going to depend on it.) It seems that once you have that magical 2 years experience, everything changes. So whoever takes me, I'm there!
  9. by   JerseyGir1
    Quote from soccer
    Well when you get into the 3rd or beginning of the 4th quarter I recommend looking for places your interested in. I found most hospitals that have a residency program have set dates they start so I knew a lot started in June or early July. I knew I wouldn't have my boards done and I didn't want to risk moving and stressing about studying for the boards. Some would offer another round around October. I decided it was worth the wait. I interviewed with a hospital in Tucson but turned it down. I didn't get a good vibe from the manager on that floor. I also looked at places in Cali but they are competitive so I would contact the hospitals your really interested in and speak to the HR or nurse recruiters and see what you need to do.
    Some make you type a little essay, get two references, etc. I am working in TX and I had a good experience from everyone I spoke with in the hospital. I will get 5 months of training. So hopefully I will be well prepared b/c I have spoke to others who feel like they are not prepared and only got like 6weeks of training. Its scary b/c that is your license on the line.
    I hope this helps.
    Tucson!! That's funny.. that's where I was primarily looking!! UMC's program.. which an HR person told me they discontinued.. and TMC I think?? I don't know, I'll be looking into it more later. TX is awesome too!! I'm glad to hear that its actually a possibility to relocate and do one of these programs, I can't wait!! Good luck!
  10. by   apoptotic
    Quote from Accelerated25
    Hello AtomicWoman!
    I am sorry, I thought you were in the program! But it is fine! That's true, once we all get accepted we can help each other more! I can not wait either! I am very excited!!!!!
    Good luck in your interview tomorrow!!!!!!!
    I am sure, everything will be fine!!!!!
    Hi again!

    When you got your interview was it a phone call or an email? Also, how long after your app was entered into the computer did it take? Just curiousssss
  11. by   Accelerated25
    Hi Apoptotic,
    In my case, I got an e-mail, then I called that lady and arranged day and time of my interview. I filled my application on-line on the 25th of August, I got an e-mail from the lady on the 3rd of September and, finally, I had my interview on the 5th of September. If you did it on-line, you can check if it is processed already or not. If you sent it by mail, probably, it will take a little longer.
    Every case, I guess, is a little different. As I said before, I applied to FACT the year before and she had all my papers in her computer. I only had to mail her the transcript of my Statistics class that I took this Summer and fill on-line application again.
    I hope that helps
    If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
  12. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from apoptotic
    Hi again!

    When you got your interview was it a phone call or an email? Also, how long after your app was entered into the computer did it take? Just curiousssss
    I received an email about a week after I did my online application. I then called the admissions counselor and made the appointment for a few days later. Because I had already been accepted to a program last year, all they had to do was update my file with my latest transcript.

    If you filed your application online, you should be able to check its status online. But even if you filed online, you still had to mail your transcripts and letters of recommendation, and that can take a little time for everything to catch up. If you're worried, I have found that there's a very nice lady in the admissions office who answers all my questions quickly. I'll PM you with her name, since we're not supposed to post individual names here. But relax once they tell you they have everything! Just let the process move forward. They are pretty quick about it; I have no complaints in that area. The counselor said I would probably get a letter fairly quickly, but it has to go through the admissions committee, so no guarantees exactly when the letter will arrive.

    My interview yesterday went fine. It was more or less just an update, do I understand the difference between FACT and the other programs, do I have any questions, etc. I didn't get a whole lot of questions, but that's because I've been through the process before. The admissions counselor recognizes me on sight now!

    Accelerated, I know you are concerned about starting some studying before school, so I thought I'd pass along some info the counselor gave me. She said students find it valuable to do a medical terminology course before they start. That way, when the prof. is lecturing, they don't have to be worrying about "what does that mean?". Instead, they can start thinking about the big picture and how things fit together. You can find a medical terminology book on Amazon, I am sure. Or you can take an online course if you want a more rigorous approach.

    Also, there's a thread going on in another forum, and one of the posters directed me to a sticky on Allnurses that has to do with pathophysiology. You might want to scroll through those posts -- at your leisure, of course!

    https://allnurses.com/forums/f205/pa...es-145201.html

    Best of luck with your application!
  13. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from bailey728
    I think the FACT and 2-yr uniforms are different because I'm almost positive last year's FACT class had the same uniforms as us. Here is what they look like:
    http://landau.com/dept.aspx?gp=women&dsp=Women's%20Whites&pro=1909

    The shirt - eh. They probably could have chosen a nicer one. The pants don't look that bad because the shirt covers them pretty low on the hips, but they are very uncomfortable and heavy.
    When I was at Jefferson yesterday, I'm pretty sure I saw a FACT student walking down 9th Street, because she was wearing that top and white pants. AGGGGGH! I also think she was wearing a white tee shirt under the tunic; the shirt came up above that lovely square neckline. :chuckle

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