Patient sitters for 11-7

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Hello and welcome to a blog with a serious question to be posed to all nurses, aides, healthcare professionals (including those who are in a managerial position), and even to patients themselves or their family members.

Many healthcare institutions (most, in fact, from what I've been told) are turning away from using restraints to protect confused patients from causing harm to themselves. Myself, I work in a hospital setting whereby this change has been painstakingly adopted over the past 11 months or so. In theory, I believe it to be a really nice idea. It's always sort-of bothered me that some of our confused elderly patients have had to be placed in posey vests (probably one of the least restraining methods used) or in soft wrist restraints to keep them from hurting themselves...either by physically scratching themselves or by pulling out IV's or tubes or any such things that need to be reinstated.

So someone, somewhere (most likely the result of family lawsuits placed over the years), decided that restraints are a bad idea. Okay...maybe I'll go along with that to a point. The objective of this posting isn't to argue the point one way or another. There are probably a few hundred good arguments either way on the matter.

To continue...

Our hospital has adopted this idea, so we're all trying to abide by it and live with it.

I've read many different comments on the practice in other blogs and postings, and it's pretty clear that very few people actually like having to sit in a patient's room (especially during the overnight shift) to safeguard them from hurting themselves.

My question to all those who choose to read this thread is this:

If it HAS to be done, what sort of policies have been adopted by other institutions that seem to work the best with staffing this position for the 11-7 shift?

My workplace has a "set number" of hired CNA's for our general staffing needs, and they've attempted to hire other CNA's to be called in to be sitters, prn. Of course and generally speaking, nobody wants to come to work for the 11-7 shift and be a sitter...so most of the time, our supervisor pulls one or more of our scheduled CNA's to do the job instead. They usually switch off and don't have to spend all night in the rooms, instead sharing the more active roles on the floor with the sitters' responsibilities. And although I can't speak for all of my co-workers, I make sure to check in to see if they need a break or if there's anything I can get them to help out (I'm an RN)...but I can't sit with the patient for a great deal of time due to the fact that I have my own responsibilities as well.

Unfortunately, when a scheduled CNA is pulled from the floor, it means the nursing staff has to pick up the slack from our missing co-worker (by the way, God Bless CNA's!! Many of you don't get the recognition or thanks you deserve!). But that's not the only issue, because it becomes a safety concern for our other patients as well. The nurse has to speed things up in order to do our job and to cover the CNA's job too...increasing the chances for mistakes and generally not being able to answer the other patients' call lights as quickly!

So does anyone out there have a method that seems to be working? Other than increased wages (naturally, most healthcare institutions won't agree to pay a higher wage to someone that's "just sitting" in a room with a patient overnight), are there other incentives that might help fix this kind of staffing problem?

One of my co-workers suggested that the additional cost for a sitter be directed to the patient's account, which seems reasonable to me...although many patient accounts probably go unpaid as it is.

Is there a system out there that's actually working?

Specializes in Med/Surg.
As a sitter/CNA for a hospital, I have to echo these thoughts. Its stressful to be just completely "forgotten," especially since you are not allowed to leave the pt. to get help or ask to be relieved for a break. Also please don't forget your sitters if they are basically trapped in the room with an extremely verbally abusive/physically threatening pt. It can be very demoralizing, upsetting, and/or scary. As a sitter you don't want to look like a whiner/whimp/complainer, so you often don't say anything, but that doesn't mean it would make a whole world of difference if staff - esp. those in more authoritative positions like nurses - checked on you and backed you up. That being said, I know nurses are busy. All I'm saying is please don't forget us. Personally being a sitter is my least favorite part of working as a CNA in the hospital, but I respect the need for them and we all have to start our careers somewhere. :)

If your talking about 11 am to 7 pm than it will be hard to find many sitters for those hours. Reason being that many sitters/CNAs in hospitals - myself included, are in nursing school etc. - so its just not feasible for them to have an overnight schedule like that.

Thanks for your input. As I said, I always check in with the people who assist me in patient care, and I know for certain that the scheduled CNA's check in with the sitters as well. Healthcare is best when it's maintained with a team effort! That's partially why I like the 11-7 shift and my workplace, because for the most part we all work together so well. :) When we have a newly hired employee, I always tell them that nursing starts from the ground up. In other words, CNA's start at the same level of care but can only give the care they're trained and hired to do. LPN's start from the ground level too(NOT where the CNA's care leaves off), but the care they can give reaches a higher level. Same thing goes for an RN...you start at the same basic level of care but you work to a higher level yet. In other words, yes...it's a tiered level of care provided, but just because you're an RN doesn't mean that gets you out of doing the same basics as a CNA does.

Sorry to have gotten off on that tangent, but I think it's an important attitude to remember!

I'm hoping things will turn around sometime though, and restraints can be utilized again when necessary. I know darn well I'd rather have one of my loved ones restrained if necessary, rather than have them hurt themselves or someone else. Of course...that being said, I also know how our patients are respected and treated at my institution and that's not always found to be the case at all hospitals. :confused:

A large hospital in the SW part of PA had an incicent with a pt a few yrs ago that wondered off and ended up dying on a roof top. The place was restraint free but they had no system in place to protect the pts that would need it. (They've since come up with new systems)

I had a family member in one of these hospitals that required some monitoring at night or at least a bed alarm. This huge hospital only had a few sitters (or at least that is what we were told) and if we wanted a sitter we would have to pay for our own or look for one thru an outside agency.

My mother took ill or she would have been sitting with gram and I was busy having a baby or I would have been in to sit. Really all she needed was a bed alarm to alert staff she was going to get up. This huge hospital didn't have any of them availble.

I would think that it would be cheaper to hire sitters (CNAs to just someone with a basic first aid course) to watch the pts and notify staff as needed than to have a huge ugly lawsuit (like the one I mentioned above).

Specializes in Pshych; LTC.
Thanks for your input. As I said, I always check in with the people who assist me in patient care, and I know for certain that the scheduled CNA's check in with the sitters as well. Healthcare is best when it's maintained with a team effort! That's partially why I like the 11-7 shift and my workplace, because for the most part we all work together so well. :) When we have a newly hired employee, I always tell them that nursing starts from the ground up. In other words, CNA's start at the same level of care but can only give the care they're trained and hired to do. LPN's start from the ground level too(NOT where the CNA's care leaves off), but the care they can give reaches a higher level. Same thing goes for an RN...you start at the same basic level of care but you work to a higher level yet. In other words, yes...it's a tiered level of care provided, but just because you're an RN doesn't mean that gets you out of doing the same basics as a CNA does.

Sorry to have gotten off on that tangent, but I think it's an important attitude to remember!

I'm hoping things will turn around sometime though, and restraints can be utilized again when necessary. I know darn well I'd rather have one of my loved ones restrained if necessary, rather than have them hurt themselves or someone else. Of course...that being said, I also know how our patients are respected and treated at my institution and that's not always found to be the case at all hospitals.

:clown: Where were you when I was a CNA many moons ago? At the LTC I worked, there was NO teamwork, whatsoever! The Cna's refused to help each other, Cna's had their "cliques". The Lpn's thought all they were suppose to do is give meds. The RN's believed their jobs were to do only paperwork. It was a gigantic mess.

After 8 months of the nonsense, I found another job.

Thank you for what you do!b:heartbeat

Important!!! Hospital sitter policy? I work as a CNA for a hospital. I have never had any formal "sitting" training. We often get psych overflow on our medical floor and a cna is pulled as a sitter. One day I was asked to be a one on one sitter with three different patients in two different rooms. One was a total care and kept asking for a gown because it was wet. I had another cna bring me a gown so I could help the lady put it on. I gave her the gown and went back to my post (outside both rooms) and one of the psych patients had ran out. He had his clothes on because the shift before did not take them from him. This occured right around change of shift. Now I am so scared of losing my job or worse legal action. Was this my fault? What are other hospital policies on being one on one with three sitter patients? HELP!!!!

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