how did they pass theyre boards??

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im just wonderin how some of these nurses passed theyre boards. i am a stna and i was workin an this guy couldnt breathe he was really nervus and his 02 stat was 92 so i told the nurse he need a breathing treatment. she just looked at me lik i was crazy and kept doin whatever she was doin at the nurse station. so i put it on him and he said thank you thank you and he was better, but the nurse got mad at me!!! she should be the on mad at herself for not caring about her pateints and just sitting at the station when her patience are sick. im glad when i become a nurse i wont be like her :D

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Im still in nursing school and im a nursing assistant. There is so much to learn and you dont even get all of it until after youve worked a few years. I definitely wouldve told the nurse and if she didnt say anything you couldve told him to take some deep breaths and try to calm down. She probably looked at you crazy because an o2 sat of 92 is a lotof times considered normal until it hits the80s usually when that happens i once again tell the nurse and she tells me to put him on a nasal cannula at like 2 liters. I let them decide what the want to do.

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It is your responsibility to care for your patients, however, ONLY in your scope of practice. As other people have said you don't have the education to know what the signs and symptoms of other diagnoses are. You might have had good intentions but you could still lose your job and your certification for doing something out of your scope of practice.

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Im still in nursing school and im a nursing assistant. There is so much to learn and you dont even get all of it until after youve worked a few years. I definitely wouldve told the nurse and if she didnt say anything you couldve told him to take some deep breaths and try to calm down. She probably looked at you crazy because an o2 sat of 92 is a lotof times considered normal until it hits the80s usually when that happens i once again tell the nurse and she tells me to put him on a nasal cannula at like 2 liters. I let them decide what the want to do.

Same here...We like our patients to be at least at 93, but a 92 isn't a dire emergency. If I told my nurse a patient was at 92% she'd probably just tell me to put him on a cannula at 1 or 2 liters.

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Im still in nursing school and im a nursing assistant. There is so much to learn and you dont even get all of it until after youve worked a few years. I definitely wouldve told the nurse and if she didnt say anything you couldve told him to take some deep breaths and try to calm down. She probably looked at you crazy because an o2 sat of 92 is a lotof times considered normal until it hits the80s usually when that happens i once again tell the nurse and she tells me to put him on a nasal cannula at like 2 liters. I let them decide what the want to do.

finally another cna lol! well he is really nervus all the time and he was already on oxygen and i turned it all th way up and he STILL couldnt breath. but 92 is not his normal so i was worried and the look on his face made me scared and i bet it woulda gona down if i hadnt done the breathing treatment.

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You don't get it. Period.

Your thinking is wrong and quite frankly, you won't get past your nursing clinicals with this attitude, much less become a nurse. You are already portraying yourself as an unsafe caregiver while you are unlicensed. You refuse to accept any responsibility for wrong doing here, despite numerous posts by other NURSES who have explained in many ways and for many reasons why what you did was not right.

It is only a matter of time before you lose your job, if you haven't already. As a nurse, I know I would have reported to my supervisor or yours if I discovered an unlicensed personnel had administered a treatment.

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Im still in nursing school and im a nursing assistant. There is so much to learn and you dont even get all of it until after youve worked a few years. I definitely wouldve told the nurse and if she didnt say anything you couldve told him to take some deep breaths and try to calm down. She probably looked at you crazy because an o2 sat of 92 is a lotof times considered normal until it hits the80s usually when that happens i once again tell the nurse and she tells me to put him on a nasal cannula at like 2 liters. I let them decide what the want to do.

You have some rockin' common sense here! Well put!

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ok but put yourself in my shoes. would you just let the man sit there and not be able to breath or would you take 1 second and put it on him and let him be able to breath again? you no you would help him and i have a duty to help all my patience. or should i tell the man hey your nurse said your ok dont worry while he is yelling he cant breath? its called caring for your patience. she could have at least came to look at him.

Putting myself in your shoes, I would have helped him by telling him I notified his nurse and she'd be in shortly. In a few minutes, I'd check on the patient and remind the nurse again. If I was really concerned, I'd let the nurse know if she doesn't have time to assess the patient I'd be happy to get someone else to look at him. You can bet your bottom dollar though, I'd call 911 before I gave him a breathing treatment!

You not only do not have a duty to administer breathing treatments to patients no matter how much you believe they need them, you don't have the authority to do so either. How do you even know the patient was allowed a breathing treatment? What if they had been discontinued? Or if he'd just had one earlier and it wasn't time for one? You not only don't have the skills to determine if the patient needed a breathing treatment, you don't have the information necessary before providing one. I'm a nurse but I can't give a breathing treatment because I think a patient needs it, I have to have an order for it. If the order is for a treatment every 8 hours, I can't give one every 4 just because I think he needs it, I have to call and get an order for that extra treatment.

If you worked at my facility, you'd not only be fired for that stunt, they'd most likely turn you in and try to get your certification pulled.

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finally another cna lol! well he is really nervus all the time and he was already on oxygen and i turned it all th way up and he STILL couldnt breath. but 92 is not his normal so i was worried and the look on his face made me scared and i bet it woulda gona down if i hadnt done the breathing treatment.

You bet it would've gone down, but you don't have the education or assessment skills to know for sure. You just don't seem to get the concept that you could lose your job AND your certification for what you did.

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Turning the oxygen up to the highest with a nasal cannula is useless...u have to switch to different face masks and the oxygen needs to be hydrated. Also too much oxygen can be dangerous to the patient pco2/po2 balance which im not sure if in his case anything was that drastic but you should understand that everything you do has a reason or consequence for doing so. Dont do somethig without asking and be glad you have to take orders from someone because theres gonna be a day when you will have to make decisions like this and it can be frightful when you are the deciding factor. I actually feel comfortable letting others decide right now and i just go with the flow of things.

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ok i see how you are comfortable with letting other make decisions but that is not the type of person i am. not that there is anything wrong with that. but if i see my patience like that amd someone fails to make a desicion i will. and i doubt anyone will try to revoke my liscense because of the good samaritan laws.

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But what if putting the breathing treatment on had somehow caused more harm? The thing is you don't have the knowledge to know what the consequences are of each action, and in turn could end up doing MORE harm. If that happened I doubt any good samaritan law would protect you. It's great you want to protect your patients, but you don't have the education or knowledge to make a decision. RNs going to school for at least 2 years to learn how to properly assess patients. Trying to assess a patient/decide a treatment for them without that knowledge could end up doing A LOT more harm than good.

I am also a CNA who is "comfortable letting others make decisions for me" when it is the RN who I am working under, and who holds a license while I do not. The nurse has assessment skills that I do not, why shouldn't they make the decision for me?

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No im comfortable with letting others make decisons because i know that im not knowlegeable or capable of making them on my own at the moment. Besides as a tech or assistant you have enough duties in your scope of practive to keep you busy at ALL TIMES.

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