20% Pass Rate

tfleuter, BSN, RN · Apr 8, 2009

I would talk to your nursing deparment/instructors to get an idea of what the average pass rate is for your school. It is possible that this particular class has been below average. I know, with a pass rate that low not likely, but maybe other graduating classes have been higher.

I would be interested to hear what your school's NCLEX first time pass rates are as well. I would not be surprised at all to hear they are 100% or near. Seems like quite a few schools use this tactic of mass weeding at the end of their programs to ensure their pass rates look excellent.

Again, talk to your program advisors/director and see if they can give you any insight on what the situation is. Heck, maybe it's worth checking out other schools in your area with higher pass ratios and see if they will let you transfer :confused:

libnat · Apr 8, 2009

now that is sad, it's almost theft to take peoples money and give them such a low pass rate in return. pay us thousands of dollars, oh and don’t worry we only fail 80% of students in their last semester.

missjennmb · Apr 8, 2009

I think that people like to scare other people. We are always telling pre-nursing students how tough school is and how we wish we had gone elsewhere. But ya know what? We're still here, and those that are not, for one reason or another, they just didn't make the cut (some didnt study enough, some got sick of the stress and burnt out and stopped studying, some had other things going on in life, some just didn't need to be there).

Don't listen to them. Don't think about what other classes are doing. Keep your nose to the grindstone and don't waste precious time freaking out about how other students are doing. It sounds harsh, but it is the only thing that keeps me here.

Blove86 · Apr 8, 2009

I think that people like to scare other people. We are always telling pre-nursing students how tough school is and how we wish we had gone elsewhere. But ya know what? We're still here, and those that are not, for one reason or another, they just didn't make the cut (some didnt study enough, some got sick of the stress and burnt out and stopped studying, some had other things going on in life, some just didn't need to be there).
Don't listen to them. Don't think about what other classes are doing. Keep your nose to the grindstone and don't waste precious time freaking out about how other students are doing. It sounds harsh, but it is the only thing that keeps me here.

Yeah, you are right. But still just that outlook makes everything bleak. I guess I will have to get intimate with the books senior year, going over everything, that way I cant get tripped up during tests.

llg, PhD, RN · Apr 8, 2009

First of all, get the correct facts from your faculty/administration about the rates of progression before you jump to any conclusions. A lot of people like to play the "Oh, we have it so bad ..." game. It's very possible that the students you talked with don't have a clear view of the full situation. For example, it might be very common for students in that class to fail the first exam, but then bring their grades up with the subsequent tests and assignments. In the end, many of those students who say they are failing may, in fact, pass.

Blove86 · Apr 8, 2009

First of all, get the correct facts from your faculty/administration about the rates of progression before you jump to any conclusions. A lot of people like to play the "Oh, we have it so bad ..." game. It's very possible that the students you talked with don't have a clear view of the full situation. For example, it might be very common for students in that class to fail the first exam, but then bring their grades up with the subsequent tests and assignments. In the end, many of those students who say they are failing may, in fact, pass.

Even though I am not sure if that post was laced with a little attitude or not I will answer that question. The students have already taken four tests. They have to left, not sure if this includes the final or not. Some of the students went to the dean of the school and had a meeting concerning tis matter. So they will be re-taking the previous tests over. I think the problem in my program is alot of lack of communication, assuming too much whether student, faculty, or staff, and sometimes teacher's do tend to do things that are considered sneaky and disrespectful.

nminodob · Apr 8, 2009

Even though I am not sure if that post was laced with a little attitude or not I will answer that question. The students have already taken four tests. They have to left, not sure if this includes the final or not. Some of the students went to the dean of the school and had a meeting concerning tis matter. So they will be re-taking the previous tests over. I think the problem in my program is alot of lack of communication, assuming too much whether student, faculty, or staff, and sometimes teacher's do tend to do things that are considered sneaky and disrespectful.

I don't think that is attitude, just reality! While I was in nursing school I ran into the same phenomenon - students who spent too much of their free time worrying about things outside their control, like who was failing. YOU are the only person whose future you have a hand in - not everyone else's! Ask yourself: does fretting about who is failing a hard course do anything for ME? If it doesn't, then focus on your own needs, whether that means more time to study, hooking up with the few people who are passing, or getting a one-on-one relationship (if possible) with your teachers. Believe me, most of us may slow down to catch a glimpse of a car wreck out of morbid curiousity, but even more of us wish there are no car wrecks at all! Don't fall into the disaster syndrome! YOU CAN SUCCEED!

llg, PhD, RN · Apr 8, 2009

Even though I am not sure if that post was laced with a little attitude or not I will answer that question. The students have already taken four tests. They have to left, not sure if this includes the final or not. Some of the students went to the dean of the school and had a meeting concerning tis matter. So they will be re-taking the previous tests over. I think the problem in my program is alot of lack of communication, assuming too much whether student, faculty, or staff, and sometimes teacher's do tend to do things that are considered sneaky and disrespectful.

I didn't intend any "attitude" and am glad you didn't jump all over me if you thought that maybe I did. I really have just learned from many years of experience that sometimes the "horror stories" -- whether they be from school life or workplace life -- tend to get a little blown out of proportion by people who are still in the grasp of the immediate situation. Their emotions can blurr their perception of events. So, I was just recommending that you get all the facts from an unbiased source before you form any conclusions.

I have both taken and taught classes where the grades in the first half of the semester were poor, but for which the final grades were much improved. In some cases, the faculty realizes that there is a problem and works to correct things. In others, the students realize that there is a higher level of expectation than they were prepared for and make the necessary adjustments in their studying. In still other cases, the course includes other components to the grade that typically "pull up" the overall course grade. I don't pretend to know what the case is in your particular situation. I just know that there are lots of possibilities -- and was trying to urge you to get all of the information you could from "all sides" of the situation so that you could have the best understanding possible of what was going on. From your original post, it looked like your only source of information was a group of students -- who may not be doing well in that class and who may therefore, not be the best sources for unbiased information.

Blove86 · Apr 8, 2009

I didn't intend any "attitude" and am glad you didn't jump all over me if you thought that maybe I did. I really have just learned from many years of experience that sometimes the "horror stories" -- whether they be from school life or workplace life -- tend to get a little blown out of proportion by people who are still in the grasp of the immediate situation. Their emotions can blurr their perception of events. So, I was just recommending that you get all the facts from an unbiased source before you form any conclusions.
I have both taken and taught classes where the grades in the first half of the semester were poor, but for which the final grades were much improved. In some cases, the faculty realizes that there is a problem and works to correct things. In others, the students realize that there is a higher level of expectation than they were prepared for and make the necessary adjustments in their studying. In still other cases, the course includes other components to the grade that typically "pull up" the overall course grade. I don't pretend to know what the case is in your particular situation. I just know that there are lots of possibilities -- and was trying to urge you to get all of the information you could from "all sides" of the situation so that you could have the best understanding possible of what was going on. From your original post, it looked like your only source of information was a group of students -- who may not be doing well in that class and who may therefore, not be the best sources for unbiased information.

I do agree. But for our school, you have to have a C average or above on your tests before you can even take the final. Then you have to have made a C or better on the final before the add in all the extra stuff, which was just implemented for our class.............so yeah its kinda crazy, Im just ready to get this over with!!!

Propranolol · Apr 8, 2009

the passing rate at my school was pretty bad last semester (the semester i graduated). from the beginning we had like 150 students. by the end we had 30 graduate. 10 of those were repeaters and lpn-rn grads. it was brutal. this school is expensive. our last semester was close to 6500 dollars. absurd. the course was cut throat. i barely passed and studied my butt off. theres too much information to process at times. thats a fact. good luck and keep your eyes on the prize.

Fermin Hernandez, ADN, ASN, RN · Apr 8, 2009

A 20% says little about the students but tons about the course and the instructors.