Published Dec 5, 2012
sinbadx81
28 Posts
To help those of us considering any or all of these 4 schools I thought I'd start a thread where we can put down why we like or dislike one over another. I have yet to visit Penn or Drexel so those sections are a little sporifice. Please feel free to add or correct any information I list here. I've pulled it from websites, admissions officers, and discussion boards.
Penn
Ranked #1 (4.6/5, US News & World Report)
Affliliated with the Penn Hospital System (13 Nat'l ranked specialites, 3 high performing, US News)
Considered research-oriented
18-month program
NCLEX pass % = 95%
Use of SIM dolls
Use of electronic health records
Mentoring w/in faculty
Clinicals 8-16 hrs/wk
Rough Price: $99,000 (though probably less via "no-loan" aid packages)
Villanova
Ranked # 64 (3.5/5, US News)
Affiliations with numerous hospitals in the region; no main affiliation
Community service/volunteer service oriented
14-month program
Near 100% job placement rate
NCLEX pass % = 90%
High student retention rate
Option of taking grad school courses w/in program
Cliniclas 12-16 hrs/wk
Class tied with clinical (i.e., Psyc lectures during psyc clinicals)
24-hr study lounge in library
Religion not a huge influence despite being Catholic university
Possible time for externships during breaks
Rough Price: $38,000
Jefferson
Ranked # 127 (3.2/5, US News)
Affiliated w/ Jefferson Hospital system (11 Nat'l ranked specialties, 2 high-performing)
Also has affiliation with many other hospitals in region
Interprofessional program (doctors, nurses, PT, other health professionals learn to work together)
12-month program
High student retention
Integrating iPad 2 into clinicals (though may not be used much according to former students)
SIM dolls (access to them 24 hrs w/ advanced notice)
Free supplies for practice
Several grad school courses w/in program
Possible to go straight to MSN after BSN
Stress paperless (eBooks)
5G network; high tech
Library open 24 hrs
Probably no time for externships
100% job placement w/in 5 months
Rough Price: $45,000 ($41K base +library, IT fees, other)
Drexel
Ranked #127 (3.2/5, US News)
Affiliated with Hahnemann system (not nationally ranked, high-performing in 9 specialties)
11-month program
NCLEX pass % = 98% (reportedly artificially inflated w/ req of passing practice test to graduate)
Emphasis on wide use of technology w/in program
Moderate retention; appears to accepts large number of students and weeds out a number of students
Rough Price: $42,000
Gingermetimbers
30 Posts
This is so helpful! I've applied to all these programs! I didn't get into Jefferson's one year FACT program but I have an interview for their 2 year APW next week. I think I'm leaning toward Villanova even though they don't have an automatic MSN option but I'm still on the fence. Thanks for posting this it's so helpful!
kp038
21 Posts
Agreed, great info. Have you heard back from Penn yet? Or come any closer to choosing an alternate program?
I haven't heard from Penn yet, but I think I'm leaning toward Villanova as my second choice. I got into Drexel, Eastern, and Villanova so far but Easyern only has an 85% pass rate for the NCLEX and Drexel seems too accelerated with 24 credits a quarter. I've narrowed it down to Jeff and Villanova. Have you heard from Penn?
Glad this could be of some use. I've not heard back from Penn either. Looking back on my correspondence from Penn I found this:
November to January – BSN Interviews for the BSN Second Degree applicants
Applicants will be contacted between November 5, 2012 and January 23, 2013 to schedule an interview, if invited.
December 15, 2012: Financial aid application deadline
Early February 2013: Admissions Decisions will be available online
Admission Committee meets mid-January
And last Friday and today the MSN/PhD applicants should have had interviews so we may be contacted soon.
I'll be obsessively checking my e-mail until January 23rd
greeneggs
37 Posts
sinbad, upenn doesnt offer "no-loan" finaid packages, does it? i thought their no-loan policy is only for undergrad students who have yet to earn their first bachelor's degree. i know second degree BSN students are also considered undergrads, but because we all have our bachelor's degree, their no-loan policy didn't apply to us. the website said that financial aid packages for ABSN students included both loans and grants...
it would be great if ABSN students also qualified for financial packages without loans, can someone please clarify? thanks so much!
If I'm reading these right, I believe the following links indicate the "no-loan" packages apply to ABSN students as well:
http://www.nursing.upenn.edu/news/Pages/PennNursingreceives.aspx
http://www.nursing.upenn.edu/about/Documents/UPfront_fall_09.FINAL.pdf (search "no loan" or on page 17 of 68)
The "no-loan" packages may not be quite as much as you need. According to the second link, "...two-thirds of students who applied
for aid received grants of $30,000 or more." That still may leave a large burden on many students (considering the sticker price is close to $100K) so they may still need to seek other aid.
wow sinbad, thanks for the info!
i know the information on their financial aid website for ABSN students has changed in the last two years, and i know last year's website included a little tidbit on the sidelines that said UPENN gives no-loan packages and meets 100% financial need, but they removed it this year and did not mention it at all in their new finaid pdf brochure. i really hope UPENN's no-loan policy still applies for ABSN students *crosses fingers*.
Yes, that's true. The info is dated so I guess that would be a good question for the interview just to make sure.
I found this in the Sept. 12, 2012 chat transcript which hints at need-based aid though not "no-loan" per se.
filomena(FilomenaAdmissions): Anthony, the tuition for the BSN portion is approx 95K, please note financial aid is available and it is based on need.
Anyone have the other chat transcript for this year by any chance?
Dassit82
39 Posts
I had my interview yesterday for Penn's BSN program. The financial aid package includes grant money and is need based, though loans are included if you do not qualify for the grants. This is about what Filomena said to me, but don't completely quote me on it. Something I LOVE about the program is the study abroad options we can do in the accelerated program, which will not derail us from completing it in the alotted time. One overseas study option is Public Health in Botswana in Summer 2014. If accepted into the program, I am most definitely trying to take advantage of that opportunity.