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Specializes in Level III cardiac/telemetry.

I was just looking over the NLNAC list of accredited schools on their website and for ORU it shows "voluntary withdrawal Dec 2006". Has anybody heard about this? Does this mean they're stopping the nursing program there or just won't be NLN approved? Seems kind of weird for a bachelor's program to not be NLN approved.

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Specializes in Level III cardiac/telemetry.

I e-mailed ORU yesterday about this because I was just curious. Here's the response I got:

We are switching national accreditation body from NLNAC to CCNE (Commision on Collegiate Nursing Education) which is an arm of the American Academy of Colleges of Nursing. Our site visit was last month and we received an excellent report. We believe the CCNE accreditation to be more pretigious than that of NLNAC. The vast majority of BSN and higher nursing education programs are switching to CCNE.

The final decision about our accreditation status with CCNE will be made in late October. Meantime, we are accredited by NLNAC through the end of this year.

I can assure you that our program meets state and national standards for nursing education.

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Specializes in neuro, m/s, renal, ortho, home health.

I wonder about this because every time I've looked at the NCLEX pass rates for ORU they are very low. You can go back and check this out. I'm not an ORU fan mainly because I don't care for Oral Roberts or his son.

Hope this helps:typing

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Specializes in Level III cardiac/telemetry.
I'm not an ORU fan mainly because I don't care for Oral Roberts or his son.

Ditto on that. I just checked on it out of curiousity!

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I wonder about this because every time I've looked at the NCLEX pass rates for ORU they are very low. You can go back and check this out. I'm not an ORU fan mainly because I don't care for Oral Roberts or his son.

Oh, no kidding on both counts. For a private school, their NCLEX pass rates are very low. And since it's a private school you don't want to spend all that money and end up taking the NCLEX more than once.:uhoh3:

Secondly, I don't care for Oral Roberts and his son either. I did send for an application packet in hopes of getting around waiting lists, but I would really have some trouble with the religion aspect of some of the classes. One of the classes was something like along the lines of "The Bible and the Charismatic Lifestyle", or something close to that. Boy, I'd be a ticking time bomb in that class and by the end of the semester I'd probably explode.

I am a Christian but his ideas on theology would clash big time with mine. Never mind that fact that I think it was $22,000 for a BSN. With their NCLEX pass rates, it's definitely not worth the money.

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Specializes in neuro, m/s, renal, ortho, home health.

You know I wonder about ORU's response - wanting to change from NLN. I don't know anything about this other accredition CCNE. If you notice ORU said "We believe this accreditation may ( I repeat, may) be more prestigious than the NLN. I think ORU got into big trouble w/ the low pass rate on boards, otherwise why would they change. I just don't trust anything w/ Oral Roberts especially after he built the City of Faith hospital after much opposition from the other hospitals in town. This happened years ago. He told the press that God told him if he (Oral Roberts) built this hospital he (God) would give him the cure for cancer. I don't remember exactly what the interview said but Oral solicited contributions from around the world. I happened to see one while in Calif. My question is this....Oral Roberts started out as being a healer. If he's a healer why didn't he just cure cancer on his own? Why did he have to solicite contributions all over the U.S.; and now there is no hospital. This kind of effort didn't benefit anyone that I know of.

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I'm not sure if he said anything about God telling him the cure for cancer, but I do know that he told various news organizations that "God would call him home" if he did not raise enough money to build the hospital, clinic, and research facilities.

I do find it ironic that after Oral Roberts sold the City of Faith, one of the tennants that moved into the building was Cancer Treatment Center of America. Which begs the question: if God gave him the cure for cancer, why did CTCoA have to move in? :uhoh3:

CTCoA is no longer there. It has moved to it's own building at 81st and US169, I think.

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Specializes in Level III cardiac/telemetry.

Hey that is kind of ironic, huh? I didn't live here when City of Faith was open. How long was it actually open? They had a medical school there then didn't they?

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Hi Lana,

It was completed in the early 80's. I remember living in San Diego and seeing all the fuss about it on 60 Minutes. I know that it was completed before my family moved to Oklahoma in 1983. I've done some basic research and the hospital opened in November of 1981. A 900 ft. Jesus appeared to him and told him that City of Faith would be successful. In Sept of 1989, the City of Faith closed.

There's more interesting statement attributed to Oral Roberts. Go to http://www.ondoctrine.com/10robero.htm

Scroll down to False Prophecies and Outrageous Claims. Makes you really wonder about the man.

I had heard at one time that he wanted the City of Faith to compete with the Mayo Clinic. The main 60 story tower was supposed to be the clinic, the ~40 story tower to the west of the main tower was the hospital, and the tower to the east of the 60 story clinic was to be the research center.

Wow, he really became a joke to the city of Tulsa. I'd visit my friends in Chicago and they'd say, "Home of Oral Roberts." Many morning radio stations had a lot of fun with his claims in the 80's.

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Specializes in Level III cardiac/telemetry.

:chuckle That was a great website, pointing out all the inconsistencies. I hope I'm not offending anyone, as that's not my goal. But seriously...when he kept saying that God was going to call him home, isn't that kind of the ultimate goal of any Christian? Not to want to die, but to be prepared and look forward to the life in Heaven? Boy, a 900 ft Jesus! Can you imagine?:chuckle

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I don't want to offend anyone either, but Lana, you have a great point there. If he was going to be called home, wouldn't that be a reward rather than a punishment for not raising the money?

Oh, and I'm not sure if I answered your question for a little ways back, but yes, there was a medical school at ORU. I feel so sorry for the students in the program when it went bankrupt. If they transferred to another school, they would have to repay their scholarships at rate of 18% interest. From the way I see it, the school broke the contract with the students. In the real world, the school would have to pay but according to the World of Oral Roberts, the students have to pay for something they weren't responsible for? :uhoh3:

For the record, I will say this. I have met some truly wonderful people who are/were associated with ORU. OTOH, I have met people who have done a real disservice to Christianity. Namely, one guy whom I was employed for a little while one summer did not pay his taxes he took out of my salary. Another was a graduate of the ORU medical school whom I dare say committed insurance fraud by submitting everyone who walked into his office that day to an ultrasonic treatment and massage. His office was very small and I overheard EVERYONE, from the pregnant to the elderly remark that it was strange that they had an ultrasound treatment today when he never did that before.

Needless to say, he's not practicing in the Tulsa area anymore. He almost defines the word "quack."

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