Nybon Nursing School Under Investigation

I finished my LPN-RN program from Carleen Health Institute. I took the NCLEX under New York state board and passed the exam. I'd been waiting on the license a couple of weeks and decided to call NYbon, was told the school is under review - hence they would not be issuing any licenses till the review is done. They also wouldn't give a time frame. Does anyone have any idea how long these reviews usually take or what could be done in situations like this?

@londonflo Med-Life was accredited by ABHES, just to be clear.

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An “approved” nursing education program is a program for the prelicensure education of professional or practical nurses that is conducted in Florida at an educational institution that is approved and regulated under s. 464.019, Florida Statutes. Approved RN nursing education programs are required to obtain accreditation within five years after enrolling the program’s first students, pursuant to S. 464.019(11), Florida Statute.

An “accredited” nursing education program, as defined by s. 464.003, Florida Statutes, is a program for the prelicensure education of professional or practical nurses that is conducted in the United States at an educational institution, whether in Florida, another state, or the District of Columbia, and that is accredited by a specialized nursing accrediting agency that is nationally recognized by the United States Secretary of Education to accredit nursing education programs Accreditation Commission for Education in Nursing (ACEN), Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE)) or National League for Nursing Commission for Nursing Education Accreditation (NLN CNEA).

8 minutes ago, T Jasmine said:

@londonflo Med-Life was accredited by ABHES, just to be clear.

That is clear but it is not an accredited NURSING program accreditation as is written in the state statute. The ABHES accreditation was only to get Federal student loan dollars. 

Specializes in oncology.
17 hours ago, Darp7288 said:

Hopefully we did speak to the NY board and they said it could be months to years as so many schools are involved.

 

Here is the state statute for programs that lost their approval-- not a 'lady who was involved'.  An “approved” nursing education program is a program for the prelicensure education of professional or practical nurses that is conducted in Florida at an educational institution that is approved and regulated under s. 464.019, Florida Statutes. Approved RN nursing education programs are required to obtain accreditation within five years after enrolling the program’s first students, pursuant to S. 464.019(11), Florida Statute.

An “accredited” nursing education program, as defined by s. 464.003, Florida Statutes, is a program for the prelicensure education of professional or practical nurses that is conducted in the United States at an educational institution, whether in Florida, another state, or the District of Columbia, and that is accredited by a specialized nursing accrediting agency that is nationally recognized by the United States Secretary of Education to accredit nursing education programs Accreditation Commission for Education in Nursing (ACEN), Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE)) or National League for Nursing Commission for Nursing Education Accreditation (NLN CNEA).

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This has been going on for many many years. I knew some people many years ago who thought about going with the lady's plan 

While "this lady' may be involved in the whole fiasco the state statute limit is the actual reason these 'programs' continued to rip off students until the state said "finally enough, you are closed!"  Do you have any regret for your role in the rip off of these students?

@londonflo I’m still confused how you all are able to get information but others can’t when we call. You all have an entire list. What am most concerned about is the schools that are under review for just education purposes, how long will this be going on?

Specializes in oncology.
18 hours ago, Darp7288 said:

Hopefully we did speak to the NY board and they said it could be months to years as so many schools are involved.

 

Here is the state statute for programs that lost their approval-- not those who were 'involved'.  An “approved” nursing education program is a program for the prelicensure education of professional or practical nurses that is conducted in Florida at an educational institution that is approved and regulated under s. 464.019, Florida Statutes. Approved RN nursing education programs are required to obtain accreditation within five years after enrolling the program’s first students, pursuant to S. 464.019(11), Florida Statute.

An “accredited” nursing education program, as defined by s. 464.003, Florida Statutes, is a program for the prelicensure education of professional or practical nurses that is conducted in the United States at an educational institution, whether in Florida, another state, or the District of Columbia, and that is accredited by a specialized nursing accrediting agency that is nationally recognized by the United States Secretary of Education to accredit nursing education programs Accreditation Commission for Education in Nursing (ACEN), Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE)) or National League for Nursing Commission for Nursing Education Accreditation (NLN CNEA).

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This has been going on for many many years. I knew some people many years ago who thought about going with the lady's plan 

While "this lady' may be involved in the whole fiasco the state statute limit is the actual reason these 'programs' continued to rip off students until the state said "finally enough, you are closed!"  Do you have any regret for your role in the rip off of these students?

T Jasmine I can tell you that my friend who went to med life lauderdale lakes filed for a ATT in May 22 and NY issued it. It was not until another classmate was waiting on her ATT from the same school and she was informed in July 22 that the school was under review and NY would not be releasing any test scores or any ATT or reciprocity licenses if the school is under review. NY said you can call them every 60 days for a update. It's going to be a while.

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17 minutes ago, T Jasmine said:

 I’m still confused how you all are able to get information but others can’t when we call. You all have an entire list. What am most concerned about is the schools that are under review for just education purposes, how long will this be going on?

When this all started with NYS, I did a deep dive to figure out what was the problem. I knew it wasn't all related to one person. These programs are geared to 'who will pay us, now" and they prey on those wanting to improve their health care education role and improve the improve the health care system. (Instead they want to improve their cash flow)

You may take my recommendations or not, but I would recommend calling your state and congressional representatives and explain that you wanted to improve your role in providing care to those who are the older population (we know that health care institutions (in-patient, out-patient, ambulatory, assistive living, total care) are going to need a strong nursing workforce to provide for their health care needs. You spent a lot of time and money to anticipate what our country will need and you delivered by passing NCLEX. 

I hope this may help....please make contact with your representatives...they are PAID to work for you and your are trying to deliver a better US/State.

Specializes in oncology.
27 minutes ago, Darp7288 said:

o med life lauderdale lakes filed for a ATT in May 22 and NY issued it. It was not until another classmate was waiting on her ATT from the same school and she was informed in July 22 that the school was under review and NY would not be releasing any test scores or any ATT or reciprocity licenses if the school is under review. NY said you can call them every 60 days for a update. It's going to be a while.

They still have their web site up for their ADN program (nothing said about NYS licensure). 

https://www.medlifeinstitute.org/programs

 

Darp, I have nothing personal about you but I really feel that all nurses and nursing schools  need to be upfront and honest about the outcome of paying $15,000 (usually) but more important time and effort to improve their life and the life of patients. We need them to be working RNs! I understand that there may be a paid source to 'funnel' potential students into programs available for their needs. But robbing students of their hopes and dreams of being an RN---or delaying these hopes and dreams  for 60 days, a while etc. is not what is wished for the graduating student of their family.  

 

4 minutes ago, londonflo said:

They still have their web site up for their ADN program (nothing said about NYS licensure) :

https://www.medlifeinstitute.org/programs

 

Darp, I have nothing personal about you but I really feel that all nurses and nursing schools  need to be upfront and honest about the outcome of paying $15,000 (usually) but more important time and effort to improve their life and the life of patients. We need them to be working RNs! I understand that there may be a paid source to 'funnel' potential students into programs available for their needs. But robbing students of their hopes and dreams of being an RN---or delaying these hopes and dreams  for 60 days, a while etc. is not what is wished for the graduating student of their family.  

 

London Flo there are well known colleges that lost their accreditation weeks before students were to graduate not fly by night schools and some of these students are paying 40 grand and student loans and they have to start all over again.. I do agree that schools should be upfront. Many students from medlife have passed the NY board so for some it worked out easy but for others it may be a fight or they may have to go work in another state. You still have an opportunity to take the exam in other states with no problems and get a license from some of the schools on the list. 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Darp7288 said:

You still have an opportunity to take the exam in other states with no problems and get a license from some of the schools on the list. 

Most states will still have a requirement that the nursing school be APPROVED in the originating state (FBON). Tell me those that don't!

20 minutes ago, Darp7288 said:

well known colleges that lost their accreditation weeks

These colleges never had NURSING PROGRAM accreditation. They lost their FBON approval because they did not meet the statute (which is law). Please reread the statute above. After 5 years  of operating (accepting students) they needed to have a Nursing program accreditation from ACEN or CCNE.

20 minutes ago, Darp7288 said:

some of these students are paying 40 grand and student loans and they have to start all over again..

This makes it even worse - These  schools took $40,000 from students and knew they were not going to meet the state stature...talk about greedy...I hope you were not associated with this schools

Once again, I will repeat that these Florida school graduates  should contact their state and US congressman. They were ripped off and the FDOE should be held accountable. Florida took management by the FBON away from them years ago.

Call your congress person. 

https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

 

London Flo the schools That lost accreditation were schools that were ACEN and they were in NY and they were well known colleges. And the students had to start all over weeks before graduation .So no program is guaranteed, And no I had no parts of the students losing their money. And yes you can still get ATT from other states from a closed school program, So that info you have is not 100 percent  that you can't get approved because you can depending on the school you went to.

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I would like to know has anyone in this situation whom has finished their BSN been able to obtain their NY license.  

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