Nursing is pathetic...

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It's to bad you feel this way I work in the E.R.and am constantly exposed to hiv, hepatitis,and a host of other diseases you can protect yourself. Why did you really go into nursing ws it for the money? If it was for that then you missed the whole point of what a nurse is. It was never meant to be anything more than the giving care to those in needof your services if you allow yourself to feel all these negative feeling it's time for a vacation from nursing and try something else for a while or have you considered trying a new area that may have sparked some interest. It might be something to think about?

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Okay Frustrated...

Now you are talking.

Let's do it! You, me your 8 friends and my 6 or 7 friends - lets start own own pool of "independent nurse contractors"...

We'd have to start out a little meek and mild - we could acquire a dba (doing business as - ficticious name) for our group and then start selling ourselves... (We'd need a name - how else would we identify ourselves? PS it's easy to get a dba in Pa.) We we each individually purchase our own .

Say we charge 30 or 40 $$$/hr. All of us agree to pitch in say 5bucks an hour for medical insurance/business costs. After we acquire enough money - about 2500.00 we then either incorporate or become a LLC - limited liability company- I'm not sure which is best but I know that if we incorporate we could get much better rates on medical insurance.

Frustrated, I am game for this - really. I have applied to west penn allegheny for their weekend option. 2 12's on the weekend and full benefits. That leaves me 5 days/week to be my own independent contractor - whether i do it by myself or not - if i get that job, that's what I'm going to try.

Whant to try together?

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I've already told my children I don't recommend it. The volume of work expected to be done is great and difficult to manage, particularly with the liability issues in today's world. I loved working as a CNA (for 10 yrs.), but my 10 years as an RN hasn't been as fulfilling. I really think a lot of it is personality oriented. I thought I would be a strong leader and confident, but those areas are 2 weak points for me, and that doesn't go well with being an RN. My suggestion to anyone is to not only look at your interests, but your personality, when considering a career! :)

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dude,

i already work at west penn...im going to try to private message you if i can

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Leave the nursing profession immeadiately! I can certainly understand and sympathize with your frustrations, but I highly recommend you make a career change. Pharmacuetical sales is a great move for those with medical experience. Great pay and you can expect some pretty good benefits. THe call to nursing is one of care and when the frustration level gets as high as yours appears to be...it is the patient that suffers. Every patient is someone's wife, husband, mother, father, daughter, son, sister, brother and/or someone that really matters in the life of others no matter how large a pain in the ass they are. If you find yourself forgetting that too often, it is time to go. I wish you the best of luck with your future endeavors.

Originally posted by nursedude

Hello,

That about sums it up for me... I am a 34 year old guy and live in Pittsburgh Pa. Have been an RN for 10years. I have done the following in nursing: Cardiotharacic ICU, ER,UR, Case Management...

THe problems with nursing I have found:

1) Poor compensation- I have friends that are Registered Plumbers and registered electricians, Certified computer specialists etc. All of them make twice as much $$$ as I do- none of them have a college degree. None of them are exposed to HIV, TB, Hepatitis on a daily basis.

2) You can't really practice nursing on your own even though you are licensed- See above- The plumber, the electrician and the computer guy all work full time jobs and also do business on the side from home and make money... Did you ever practice nursing on the side? its called illegal...

3) Nurses are on the bottom of the food chain...Doctors, PA's, CRNP's, Administrators all look down on nurses- at least here in Pittsburgh they do. Nurses here are just another load on the revenue generated by hospitals...

:eek:
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Tina,

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I'll try buying groceries and paying my mortgage with care next time instead of money.

ND

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Specializes in O.R., ED, M/S.

I have been in nursing for 24 years and started when guys were far and few between. I don't mind admitting I went into nursing for the security and pay. Well, back then I started at 7$ per hour and that was very good, in my eyes, back then. Now I make almost 29/hr and can't find too many other jobs that pay as well. I work in the OR and wouldn't do anything else. I can take care of myself and don't put up with much BS and don't mind saying there are very, very few MDs that make me nervous. I just tune them out if they are being jerks. You tell me where I can go and make 100,000 per year with, in my opinion very little effort. I like to do my own plumbing and electrical work and wouldn't dream of paying them a single penny to do anything for me. I can do anything they can do, but they can't do anything I do in nursing! I don't mind nursing in general, there are days I want to scream but hey all jobs have their problems. You do whatever you feel is right for yourself. Good luck, Mike

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sorry but i was just figuring up and at $29 an hour to make $100,000 per year you would be working fulltime and put in an additional 17 hours of time and a half per week. doesn't sound much fun to me.

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:confused: Oy! Good grief! Negativity is really a downer for the student! I am going to apply to the nursing program at my college and I don't care how negative or snotty co-workers or staff are- that is their problem and people that act like a pack of wolves toward new students or others HAVE NO BUSINESS in a health care field!!! I have been a homemaker for 10 years, my kids are in school now and I am getting out of the house and doing something meaningful with my life. We are in the military and pay isn't that great but we have always been fine SO anything I make in my new career field will be like hitting the jackpot because I have NEVER gotten my own paycheck! I live in ND so I am prepared not to get much pay but hey, it's better than nothing! I'm sure the job is thankless on alot of days but if a person is not willing to try to make changes then quit complaining and get out. I have no sympathy for negative one-uppers who try to intimidate people! They have major issues and they need to take that up with GOD. People like that don't seem to accept help from anyone else. There are a lot more people that have it worse than you like the people laying in that bed dying of cancer! There are always bigger problems that will make yours seem smaller if you just look around. When I think I am feeling negative or start complaining I just think of someone who has it way worse than me and has NO control over their situation. You can change your attitude and be happier, but that alzheimers patient is afflicted for life! Come on! Bad attitudes are the reason we have all these problems today. Maybe when we go to nursing school they should do a mental health/personality assessment as well so we can sift out the back-bitin' downers! I would NEVER treat people that way, I am very enthusiastic and LOVE people but I tell ya, I have pity on those co-workers we hear nurses and students complaining about! In the long run, the rotten wolf pack will get their's threefold! It is a shame they have to ruin it for everyone else!
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What does nursedude want people to reply? When a person replies sincerely they get a sarcastic negative response. What is your REAL problem? It doesn't seem to be nursing.....

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WHIP--HOW CAN YOU EVEN BEGIN TO COMMENT ABOUT NURSEDUDE IF YOU HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR A PAYCHECK IN NURSING? YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE NEGATIVITY COMES FROM WHEN YOU BEGIN TO WORK IN NURSING. IN MY OPINION IT COMES FROM NOT BEING ALLOWED BY ADMIN. THE TIME OR STAFF TO GIVE THE PTS. EXCELLENT CARE. NURSE DUDE NEVER SAID HE WAS NOT GOOD TO HIS PTS. HE IS VENTING HIS FRUSTRATIONS FROM THE JOB. ARE YOU ANOTHER ONE WHO FEELS NURSING IS A "NOBLE PROFESSION". YOUR POST WANTS TO BLAME THE NURSES FOR THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE. AGAIN IMHO. BY THE WAY--I ALSO AGREE100% WITH NURSE DUDE AND MUST SAY--------I LOVE HIM TOO!!!!!!!!!!

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:confused: Look, sorry if it sounds like I am blaming nurses for their behavior. No, Admin stinks. The situation with quality time with patients stinks. My sister and mother are both in the medical field so I know first hand. It is not all the nurses it is other existing factors as well that make it miserable. That nurse dude is RUDE. If you think he seems NICE and LOVE him fine, but if you scroll to some of the sarcastic replies he gave back to sincere people trying to help or get to the bottom of his problem, you will see that a person like that will be rubbed the wrong way no matter what you say to them! Hope he's not sarcastic to his own family and friends all the time! Venting is allright and no one is perfect but we aren't his personal boxing ring either!
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sorry whip, but you can only know first hand if you work or have worked in nursing. which you have not. you, and several others are assuming he has some problem because his opinion is different than yours. he sounds well "together" to me.

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