Single-payer advocates disrupt Senate Finance Committee.

Nurses Activism

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"So, let me get this straight you have fifteen seats at the table but not one for single-payer?" Priceless.

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how about these sources

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/04/01/0401er.html

http://www.saynotoillegalimmigration.com/2007/10/16/illegal-immigrants-will-destroy-the-us-healthcare-system/

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275

http://www.desastres.org/noticias.php?id=11102007-23

Source(s) for that claim? Any studies you can cite to support that? Otherwise, it is nothing more than the same old tired conservative canard about how the free loading poor will abuse the system if health care were actually affordable for all. You know, as opposed to the fraud perpetrated by the health insurance companies, sometimes as often as 185 times a day, every day, for 2 years like PacifiCare did in California, or hospital corporations who defrauded the government (i.e. taxpayers) to the tune of $840 million. Oh no, let's not blame those people for abusing and costing the system. Let's blame those nameless poor free loaders!
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Two of these basically say, blame the illegal immigrants, one of which actually ends with this morsel: "Special thanks to Sean Hannity for airing this important information. We basically transcribed his television segment to share with the rest of the concerned country." How about an unbiased news source not from Faux News, eh?

The other two are about ER abuse happening now, under the current system. You are assuming that if health care reform happens, the abuse will worsen, as if health care reform will not include ways to curb that abuse. I don't know why you'd assume that. It would be one thing if we had specifics of what the reform will look like, and there is critique of that. But we don't know the details yet, so your assumptions that the worst will happen, just smack of conservative fear-mongering.

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You asked for sources and I give thme to you know as a typical liberal you have to resort to name calling how quaint and predictable. Fortunatley conservatives are more open minded than liberals.

Two of these basically say, blame the illegal immigrants, one of which actually ends with this morsel: "Special thanks to Sean Hannity for airing this important information. We basically transcribed his television segment to share with the rest of the concerned country." How about an unbiased news source not from Faux News, eh?

The other two are about ER abuse happening now, under the current system. You are assuming that if health care reform happens, the abuse will worsen, as if health care reform will not include ways to curb that abuse. I don't know why you'd assume that. It would be one thing if we had specifics of what the reform will look like, and there is critique of that. But we don't know the details yet, so your assumptions that the worst will happen, just smack of conservative fear-mongering.

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You asked for sources and I give thme to you know as a typical liberal you have to resort to name calling how quaint and predictable.

When you cite Faux News as a source, or offer up articles funded by health insurance lobbyists, they deserved to be exposed for the right wing propaganda they are.

Fortunatley conservatives are more open minded than liberals.
:lol2::rollThanks for the laugh of the day.
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Adding this here instead of starting a new thread as it is related....

Nurses Greet AHIP in San Diego: the Protests continue

By National Nurses Movement

The tradition of brave and proud nurse activism for guaranteed healthcare on the single-payer model continued today thanks to Janice Webb, RN, and her nurse intervention at the convention of the health insurance industry in San Diego, AHIP. They're the lobbyists for the insurance giants who make money by denying care to the very patients that Janice cares for at UC-San Diego Medical Center.

As nurses last month shook up the Senate Finance Committee, which led to an

this week, Nurse Webb took her protest to directly challenge those who are at the main cog in our broken and dysfunctional health care system.

With thousands of well-paid insurance executives around her waiting to hear from Jeb Bush and Howard Dean, Janice marched up to the stage at the San Diego Convention, where the moderator was droning on about how hard AHIP is working to find healtcare solutions -- meaning legislation that will protect their position at the center of power over our health and the profits they make from the pain and suffering of patients.

Taking the mike, Janice held up a copy of an $11 billion dollar check, Janice then declared, to a mix of cheers and boos, "Nurses have the solution. You all need to get out of healthcare. We took up a collection and want to present this check to you to go away so we can finally institute a humane single-payer system for this nation...everybody in, nobody out!"

Of course it did not last long. Burly security men rushed the stage, grabbed Janice and a companion, and hustled them off. Hysterical AHIP security guards angrily denounced Janice, and demanded her arrest.

Instead, the police officers smiled, asked Janice if she had any warrants out, and started to describe the healthcare cutbacks they're facing due to SDPD's trouble with affording ever-rising insurance premiums, and escorted her outside where she was given a raucous welcome from a crowd of nurses, teachers, patients, doctors, and progressive democrats....

Janice was followed by Jeffrey Gordon, a Physicians for a National Health Program member, who brought along a half-dozen of his patients who have been bankrupted or sickened by their insurance companies....

Gordon told the crowd, "As I was driving here I knew I was in the right place because there's a whole flock of corporate jets lined up right over there. We're here to tell AHIP that it's time to get rid of their jets." He added, "The power of those people across the streets keep the people in Washington from talking about the real problems in healthcare in this nation. And if you don't make the right diagnosis there is not cure--which is to get rid of the health insurance industry."

Another article from a San Diego paper.
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I forgot liberals get from reliable sources like Keith Olberman and Chris Matthews.

When you cite Faux News as a source, or offer up articles funded by health insurance lobbyists, they deserved to be exposed for the right wing propaganda they are.

:lol2::rollThanks for the laugh of the day.

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I forgot liberals get from reliable sources like Keith Olberman and Chris Matthews.

Chris Matthews, not so much. Rachel Maddow, yes.

The fact is, everything we may hear on MSNBC can be independently verified and backed up by other unbiased news sources! The same cannot be said for the joke that is Faux News. Your response does not change the fact that you have provided only conservative sources to back up your conservative opinions.

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All you need to know.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/top-news/cable-news

Maddow is a joke just look at her ratings. She couldn't even hack it on Air America you knwo the group that scammed money from charities. Real ethical people if only they were tax cheats they could work for Obama.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45730

Chris Matthews, not so much. Rachel Maddow, yes.

The fact is, everything we may hear on MSNBC can be independently verified and backed up by other unbiased news sources! The same cannot be said for the joke that is Faux News. Your response does not change the fact that you have provided only conservative sources to back up your conservative opinions.

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An article on ratings is supposed to prove...what? That conservatives really really love O'Reilly? :lol2:

Maddow is a joke just look at her ratings. She couldn't even hack it on Air America you knwo the group that scammed money from charities. Real ethical people if only they were tax cheats they could work for Obama.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45730

Oh wow, yet another link to a right-wing propaganda site! A former chairman is arrested for a crime and right-wingers are hell bent to use it to try to tarnish an entire network? What else is new? Certainly has nothing to do with Rachel. I'll take Rachel Maddow, Rhodes scholar, PhD from Oxford University, joke to conservatives, over any of the wingnuts at Faux News anyday. Well, I have nothing against Shep Smith. He's the only sane one there. And now.....back on-topic.
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Yep you MSNBCers are the smart ones alright your shows ratings prove it.

An article on ratings is supposed to prove...what? That conservatives really really love O'Reilly? :lol2:

Oh wow, yet another link to a right-wing propaganda site! A former chairman is arrested for a crime and right-wingers are hell bent to use it to try to tarnish an entire network? What else is new? Certainly has nothing to do with Rachel. I'll take Rachel Maddow, Rhodes scholar, PhD from Oxford University, joke to conservatives, over any of the wingnuts at Faux News anyday. Well, I have nothing against Shep Smith. He's the only sane one there. And now.....back on-topic.

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Enough bickering about networks.

Fox news sucks. They are clearly biased, put too much non-news on the news and are just too over the top. They remind me of the movie Idiocracy sometimes.

MSNBC and CNN and pretty much every other news agency are also biased just the other direction so let's not act like they are a great substitute either.

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june 3, 2009

baucus to seek dismissal of criminal charges against single payer advocates

senator max baucus (d-montana) has agreed to ask prosecutors to dismiss "disruption of congress" charges against thirteen single payer advocates.

baucus met for 45 minutes today with single payer advocates after facing intense negative public reaction to his decision to bar those advocates from testifying last month at three days of health care reform hearings before the senate finance committee which he chairs.

forty-one people testified at those hearings - not one of which was an advocate for a single payer health care system.

after the meeting, the advocates, along with senator bernie sanders (i-vermont), held a press conference.

http://www.singlepayeraction.org/blog/?p=798

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