Importing nurses from the Phillipines

Babe · Nov 10, 2002

Babe going to her cornor on this one ,except for two things, 1st. some timrs in typing so fast spelling mistakes just happen, the head often works faster than the fingers, 2nd. I'd like to know results of nursing shortages in other countries so keep us posted! Thanks: :eek:

sjoe · Nov 10, 2002

By clicking on the "edit" button of any post that YOU wrote, you can correct spelling, grammar, logic, etc. mistakes. Or add to or delete any of it you want to.

Babe · Nov 11, 2002

I'm not only new in school; but in the use of these comps. also Thank you for the help!:imbar

-jt · Nov 11, 2002

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None of it can happen until the working environment & conditions are drastically improved first. There are 500,000 currently licensed US nurses right here in this country refusing to work in nursing today - mainly because of working conditions. Fix those things & many will come back. Make the job worth it & make the workplace a desireable one for nurses & will will not only be able to recruit back the experienced nurses but also new students -- and they'll stay a lot longer than the 1-3 yrs theyre staying now.

The solutions has to begin in the working environment. THEN recruitment & retention efforts will actually work.

rasunico · Nov 11, 2002

Originally posted by apols_uk
by the way florry we dont speak norwegian thats probably why these nurses say no

hi apols_uk read your reply to florry's comments regarding filipino nurses, i agree with you..... by the way, how's being a nurse in uk? i'm still here in the philippines gaining experience.... :cool:

Nurse Nevada, RN · Nov 12, 2002

Phillipino nurses are hard working and contiencious. We need every nurse we can get, no matter where they're from. We are at crisis levels.

Please come and sign a petition to lower the Nurse-to-Patient ratio in Nevada. It's an issue of safety! Go to:

http://users.lvcm.com/nursenevada

Thank-you,

Every signature helps!

Dianne Moore, RN

Youda · Nov 12, 2002

Originally posted by -jt
[bThe solutions has to begin in the working environment. THEN recruitment & retention efforts will actually work. [/b]

It sounds like a questions of 'which came first: the chicken or the egg?' Did the shortage cause the bad working conditions or did the bad working conditions cause the shortage? I think it's about 50% of both. For short-term relief, nurses from other countries would sure help. For long-term remedies, you are absolutely correct!

I suppose I'm not very optimistic that there will be sweeping reforms anytime soon. So, in the meantime, I would just like to save myself today, and maybe save a few of those people who are dying from lack of staff today. Please remember I'm in a right-to-work state where unions have been kept out. So, my working conditions are far more dire than yours in NYC.

AJACKT33Z, LVN · Nov 12, 2002

U.S.-of California---a riot!! The financial info is that we are about fifth or sixth place behind other--get this--COUNTRIES--as far as gross number of capital (money) generated. I'm not sure about exact placing, but USA is #1, followed by JAPAN,ENGLAND,& FRANCE. These are world powers! I have been here since the 50's & I have worked with practically all nationalities. All I have to say is simple: assholes come in all colors, & so do friends. I get critisized for laughing at mistakes made by nurses from abroad; "they" say I am making them uncomfortable. I tell them I will laugh when I am amuzed--I am laughing with them, not at them.I show them the correct( spelling/ pronunciation/idiom/slang and will stop & show anyone how to learn if they are eager to embrace USA as their country. "pt has a soar trout" is one of my favorites. I am racist about having people from outside of CA. move here to live. In CA. , I am living in my native city,LOS ANGELES. I am the only native CALIFORNIAN (all other nurses filipino, salvadorian,columbian,you name it) , I am used to being the one to ask if the ediquette(spelled wrong, I'm too lazy to stop & think while I'm on a roll) , the spelling , the phrase, expression----I treat humans the way I want to be treated--simple but very effective in dealing w/ others. People that come here & complain about being here are the biggest P.I.T.A.'s around. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.(quote Dennis Miller)

Youda · Nov 12, 2002

Originally posted by AJACKT33Z
I show them the correct ( spelling/ pronunciation/idiom/slang and will stop & show anyone how to learn if they are eager to embrace USA as their country. "pt has a soar trout" is one of my favorites. . . I am used to being the one to ask if the ediquette(spelled wrong, I'm too lazy to stop & think while I'm on a roll) , the spelling , the phrase, expression . . .

Please, please, PLEASE, don't take offense, AJACK. But, this was just too funny to pass up. :roll :roll :roll

apols_uk · Nov 12, 2002

hey rasunico hows our country i can see you live down the coast since cavite is near the sea i went there ages ago when i was in college with friends.

nursing in the uk is no different from american and philippine setting. there are differences specially name of drugs which

i havent heard before but as time goes youll adapt to it.

its nice working and living here as well specially if you master their jargons( rhyming things but not their original meaning

ex. i wanna spend a penny which means going to toilet)

its challenging though before its impossible to understand

the scottish accent, irish and welsh and not to mention the northern people but you will adapt to them before you know it as you always encounter everyday of your life but i find them very polite and it seems a crime in here if you dont say please or sorry very reserved something that you can learn how to be more polished and graceful.

i hope and wishh you luck in your future career in here

apols

apols_uk · Nov 13, 2002

i just wish one day and hopefully in my generation that working conditions and benefits and pay in the philippines will improve so that filipino nurses will stay including me. its just amazing how my brothers and sisters in the western world still treat and think of us as CHEAP LABOR, NO CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS, POOR ENGLISH and SPELLING,POOR PATIENT CARE,"YES and NO confussion as a means of agreeing and so on................................

YES!!!!!! made in the philippines so what.to those people try hiring monkeys next time.throw them with a half eaten banana they will agree being laughed at and be tagged as what i have said above.

booboo · Nov 14, 2002

YES - I have travelled to many other countries! And yes - I have many policitally correct ideas - some even liberal ones! It's the life experiences and the experiences with other cultures that I am able to SAFELY say and admit that YES - differences between cultures are a reality.

It's the naive and probably - young - or extremely liberal ones that can't admit to the differences between men and women, cultures, etc.

If there is one thing people have said about me in the past is that I am FAIR - to a fault sometimes. I believe in fair and equal treatment for everyone. It is the attitude of some Asian workers that hierarchies exist. That a doctor is superior to nurses, that ACP's or CNA's are inferior, that P&P books are superior to a nurse in a critical situation. It is exactly the UNFAIR and subordinate - and conservative - attitude of some that are causing a problem for natives here in the U.S. who want to make things better for all nurses. Not take less pay, less respect and simply say yes sir, no sir to any and all "superiors" as some do.

So before Youda begins to stereotype me, please realize I am speaking from years of life experiences in different parts of this country and travels in other parts of the world.

And the fact is that as long as there are foreign nurses eager to come here to take less pay and poor working conditions - IT WILL NOT IMPROVE! THIS WILL WEAKEN OUR POWER TO MAKE CHANGES!

I actually can see vacancies being filled by nurses from poorer countries who are willing to settle for what we have in the workplace now and eventually, U.S. nurses will become the minority, if not entirely replaced.

I'm all for foreign nurses working here, from anywhere as long as they pass the same tests and are held to the same standards as I have to comply with. But I cannot tolerate their culture of hierarchy being forced into my workplace and onto me. EQUAL treatment for EVERYONE - that's the American way!!!!