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My husband just started his first job since his license has been reinstated. He had to sign up with recovery trek and we have cleaned out our entire house to prevent a possibile accidental exposure, we read the letter about recovery trek now using a more sensitive test... My question is mainly about vanilla extract he came shopping with me at a whole foods and not thinking we grabbed cold brew mocha coffees in a can we each had one I checked the ingredients after the fact and I didn't see any vanilla extract but it has me wondering has anyone gotten a false positive from vanilla extract I know it's on the list but has anyone eaten something with it and passed ? Or had anyone accidentally eaten vanilla extract and failed ,from what food ? Our sons birthday is next week and I noticed vanilla ice cream is out for my husband... Lastly what is a quality deoderent without alcohol that works as he sweats a lot? This is all so new to us I'm trying to support him and it just seems as if the accidental exposure possiblity is everywhere ? any advice would be greatly appreciated as since yesterday I have read more than I ever cared to know about vanilla extract and alcohol testing ?

I've been on this program for 3 years and got nailed with many option 10's and 3's I would get the blood test twice a month, right after my blood test. I would go out to the bar and have no more. Then seven mixed drinks and I passed every blood test doing this except my first one I failed, because I didn't know about the peth test and it was never explained to me how it worked. So I drank about a half a bottle of vodka, six days prior to me, failing the peth test the path test is not as sensitive as people think it only tests for heavy drinking. You have to flood your bloodstream with ethanol. To cause damage to the red blood cells, they look for damaged red blood cells. If you don't drink enough to damage them, you will pass a peth it takes about twelve days to clean out your body of the damage red blood cells.You know, if you have a fast metabolism and workout. Recently at the end of my program, I just got hit with an option 9 and failed it, and all I took were my prescription meds, and the over the counters. I've been taking this entire program. So now I'm worried as to what I could have came up positive for because the woman at recovery trek would not tell me exactly what drug I failed for but she said, it's definitely one of the over the counters, whether I believe her or not, that's another story I'm about to find out in the next couple days.

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David C. Racemus Jr. said:

I've been on this program for 3 years and got nailed with many option 10's and 3's I would get the blood test twice a month, right after my blood test. I would go out to the bar and have no more. Then seven mixed drinks and I passed every blood test doing this except my first one I failed, because I didn't know about the peth test and it was never explained to me how it worked. So I drank about a half a bottle of vodka, six days prior to me, failing the peth test the path test is not as sensitive as people think it only tests for heavy drinking. You have to flood your bloodstream with ethanol. To cause damage to the red blood cells, they look for damaged red blood cells. If you don't drink enough to damage them, you will pass a peth it takes about twelve days to clean out your body of the damage red blood cells.You know, if you have a fast metabolism and workout. Recently at the end of my program, I just got hit with an option 9 and failed it, and all I took were my prescription meds, and the over the counters. I've been taking this entire program. So now I'm worried as to what I could have came up positive for because the woman at recovery trek would not tell me exactly what drug I failed for but she said, it's definitely one of the over the counters, whether I believe her or not, that's another story I'm about to find out in the next couple days.

What's option 9?  Benadryl dextromethorphan are banned. So is unisom. Sucks that you are so close to finishing and get hit with this 

I'd suggest no more alcohol just in case. You got lucky with the alcohol you had. 

What state

Please post an update after you learn your fate.

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Yes I've been taking nyquil doxalymine and dyphenhydramine this whole time and it never tested positive that is why I am wondering if this option 9 tests for that because options 1,2,3 and 6 most definitely don't because I've been taking unisom every night for 3 years and all of a sudden poof I'm positive on option 9 which was an 80 dollar test

And I'm from Pennsylvania and it never showed in option 10 which is a blood test so I find this strange

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Caringnurse1661 said:

Yes I've been taking nyquil doxalymine and dyphenhydramine this whole time and it never tested positive that is why I am wondering if this option 9 tests for that because options 1,2,3 and 6 most definitely don't because I've been taking unisom every night for 3 years and all of a sudden poof I'm positive on option 9 which was an 80 dollar test

Did they know? Is there alcohol in nyquil? No unison or benadryl allowed.  If it's one of those I'd just be honest and say you didn't know.  

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And I'm from Pennsylvania and it never showed in option 10 which is a blood test so I find this strange and I never knew that those were banned they aren't narcotics

No ZZZ quilt has alcohol not nyquil I've been very cautious 

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But even in ZZZ quilt is not enough to test positive for etg trust me I know from experience not bragging but I played with fire at the beginning I was naive but learned quick with I didn't have to learn the hard way but we're human

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Caringnurse1661 said:

And I'm from Pennsylvania and it never showed in option 10 which is a blood test so I find this strange and I never knew that those were banned they aren't narcotics

No ZZZ quilt has alcohol not nyquil I've been very cautious 

OK then it's the unisom or benadryl.  Again be honest and say you didn't know.  People apparently abuse both.  I really hope they give you a break.  Glad you changed your name too. 

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I don't know if anybody has more experience with the nurse recovery program and recovery track. Specifically I'm in connecticut. An APRN in the hospital reported me to dph, for a positive urine screen during an emergency room visit. Dph sent a letter saying I can enter haven. I did the initial evaluation with their therapist, and now they are saying I need to see a psychologist and a neurologist. And they're concerned about my seizure disorder, which has never been caused any issues at work. I was initially told 3 to 5 drug tests a week. The first week I had 2 the next week I had one, and this past week I had none. After finding out about my seizures, they have now said, I can't practice direct patient care even with a practice liaison. No other updates on what the plan going forward is. And I'm a little concerned how they can use a disability against you when that wasn't the main concern or has caused any issues.

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RNemj said:

I don't know if anybody has more experience with the nurse recovery program and recovery track. Specifically I'm in connecticut. An APRN in the hospital reported me to dph, for a positive urine screen during an emergency room visit. Dph sent a letter saying I can enter haven. I did the initial evaluation with their therapist, and now they are saying I need to see a psychologist and a neurologist. And they're concerned about my seizure disorder, which has never been caused any issues at work. I was initially told 3 to 5 drug tests a week. The first week I had 2 the next week I had one, and this past week I had none. After finding out about my seizures, they have now said, I can't practice direct patient care even with a practice liaison. No other updates on what the plan going forward is. And I'm a little concerned how they can use a disability against you when that wasn't the main concern or has caused any issues.

You're on their radar now. Doesn't matter what you were initially reported for , you are now under their microscope.  They want to make sure you're not a danger to patients.  

Never seek medical care where they know your profession and never disclose your profession when getting medical care or really don't disclose your profession when not working.  

Anything you do while having a monitoring agreement is under the microscope.  You must jump through all their hoops to keep your license.  

Unless you had a relapse testing is usually 3 to 5 times a month.  

This sucks doesn't it? Do everything they ask no matter how ridiculous if you want to finish this with your license.  Don't use any mood altering substances including benadryl alcohol marijuana.  Nothing. They can do hair and nail tests so don't think you can indulge if you've already had 5 tests a month. 

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Healer555 said:

You're on their radar now. Doesn't matter what you were initially reported for , you are now under their microscope.  They want to make sure you're not a danger to patients.  

Never seek medical care where they know your profession and never disclose your profession when getting medical care or really don't disclose your profession when not working.  

Anything you do while having a monitoring agreement is under the microscope.  You must jump through all their hoops to keep your license.  

Unless you had a relapse testing is usually 3 to 5 times a month.  

This sucks doesn't it? Do everything they ask no matter how ridiculous if you want to finish this with your license.  Don't use any mood altering substances including benadryl alcohol marijuana.  Nothing. They can do hair and nail tests so don't think you can indulge if you've already had 5 tests a month. 

I really don't care about the tests, the event was a one off, I don't even drink. But they did write 3-5 times a week in the initial agreement so I'm confused. Like was the hair negative and my records showed no history so they decreased it? I will also be contacting an attorney regarding the disability aspect so hopefully they can shed more light. I follow very closely with a personal neurologist who has never deemed my condition to cause me unsafe so really this seems discriminatory. I may just let them kick it back to dph, this whole program seems corrupt.

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RNemj said:

I really don't care about the tests, the event was a one off, I don't even drink. But they did write 3-5 times a week in the initial agreement so I'm confused. Like was the hair negative and my records showed no history so they decreased it? I will also be contacting an attorney regarding the disability aspect so hopefully they can shed more light. I follow very closely with a personal neurologist who has never deemed my condition to cause me unsafe so really this seems discriminatory. I may just let them kick it back to dph, this whole program seems corrupt.

Very corrupt.  I got reported to the state monitoring agency not the board so that's one reason I didn't try to fight back. I contacted a lawyer late in the game and was told the board usually just sides with the monitoring agency.  If I tried to fight it, it'd be reported to the state and would follow me forever. I'm pretty sure they'll let you return to work after their people say it's OK. Lots of money 

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RNemj said:

I don't know if anybody has more experience with the nurse recovery program and recovery track. Specifically I'm in connecticut. An APRN in the hospital reported me to dph, for a positive urine screen during an emergency room visit. Dph sent a letter saying I can enter haven. I did the initial evaluation with their therapist, and now they are saying I need to see a psychologist and a neurologist. And they're concerned about my seizure disorder, which has never been caused any issues at work. I was initially told 3 to 5 drug tests a week. The first week I had 2 the next week I had one, and this past week I had none. After finding out about my seizures, they have now said, I can't practice direct patient care even with a practice liaison. No other updates on what the plan going forward is. And I'm a little concerned how they can use a disability against you when that wasn't the main concern or has caused any issues.

1. A nurse on duty at an ER can't disclose your private health information to a monitoring agency or the BON without your consent.  That's not just a crime.  It's a civil liable action on that nurses part.  So for starters, you have a case with that nurse.

2. The test in the ER could have been thrown out with an attorney.  It's likely not based on proper chain of custody and the entire thing could have been challenged IF you would have got an attorney early on in the process.  Now that the BON knows you, forget about that.  Too late.

3.  WHY?  Why would you disclose to ANY other HUMAN being that you are a nurse when you are about to take a drug test in ANY setting that has the small chance of being positive?  WHY?  You see how that went for you?  Not well.  NEVER tell ANY human you are a nurse, period.  No matter how proud you are or how active you are in the profession, don't disclose it to anyone.

Example for Any Nurses Reading This. A nurse is traveling from Maine to the Florida Keys on Vacation and is at an awesome bar and grill located on the ocean in the Florida Keys with an awesome live band playing.  Your waitress sees that you are getting a little tipsy (like everyone else having fun).  Your waitress is also the sister of another nurse ( who lives there locally) who just so happens to be hanging out and having a good time in that same bar.  You get into an argument with your waitress as you are paying your bill over the exact cost of your tab.  You finally resolve the tab/bill and head out of the bar.

That waitress is PISSED at you.  She also tells her sister about it who is still hanging out in the bar and her sister is very protective.  Her sister gets YOUR name from the Bill/Tab and the waitress tells her sister that you were Rude, Nasty, Mean, and being an A-Hole, and that you are an RN (because you felt the need to disclose it to everyone because of your EGO).  What does the vindictive sister in the bar who is also a nurse do?  She awakens the next morning, looks you up, finds what state you are licensed in (easy to do, takes 2 minutes) and goes to that BON website, makes a couple clicks of the mouse to file a complaint.  6 months or 10 months later, you are answering questions with your BON and heading for an eval.  See how easy that is?  KEEP your MOUTH SHUT.  Tell nobody you are a nurse in public.  Rnemj (I am not talking about your personally in this example.  I am talking about any and all nurses who might be reading this (including myself) regarding advice when in public.

Rnemi, you are the victim of a corrupt system that has far to much power and it's sad these fools can do this stuff and get away with it.

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