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suzanne4, RN · Mar 22, 2008

There is no fastest way to complete any nursing program. And if you train in the Philippines, you will be considered a foreign grad and subject to all of the additional requirements for licensure.

The LPN training is only accepted if you are a US citizen or hold a green card already for the US.

The US actually requires the BSN from there for licensure, as the ADN is not accepted for licensure in the Philippines. One of the requirements of the US is that the training be accepted for licensure in terms of the RN. You will have to complete the full BSN program there.

Just because a program is advertised, does not mean that is meets the requirements for the US. Please be very leary when you are researching programs there in the first place. Always better to obtain your training in the US if you can. There is already much written on this subject.

sabongero · Mar 22, 2008

Hi Suzanne,

Thanks for the response. Im a dual citizen and GF is american. I just heard about this school name Philippine Paramedical and Technical Institute and they offer ADN for 2 years. I was wondering if this school could be accepted here at US and how could i verify that. Any website?

thanks,

Sabongero

jore from RP · Mar 23, 2008

Hi sabongero!

It's Philippine Paramedical and Technical School. Please, please, please.... Anything that is too good to be true, is often not.

Where did you happen to hear about this school?

suzanne4, RN · Mar 23, 2008

It is not accepted in the US, as one of the requirements for the RN is that the training by equivalent to what the country accepts for licensure in their own country, and the PRC does not accept the ADN for licensure there.

The rules are that the training has to consider the nurse as a first level professional nurse and that will not.

And as the other poster stated, if it sounds too good to be true, then it is. You will also be considered as a foreign trained nurse for as long as you practice with many extra hoops to jump thru, in order to get licensed in the US. Immigration and licensure are two very separate things here.

And the clinical training in many of these newer programs that have opened in the Philippines are not comparable to the US by any means.

And the length of the programs are increasing by a year in case that you are not aware of that. And since you hold dual citizen, meaning that you still hold citizenship in the Philippines, you are required to abide by any rules that they may put into place such as two years of civil work before they will give you your documents to be able to work in the US. They are starting to put restrictions into place, or at least talking of it, and you would have to abide by all of them.

Would focus on attending school in the US, there still are programs that you can get into if you meet their requirements, it may just involve moving to an area that you have not thought of.

And to top it off, if you train out of the US, you are looking at about six months after you finish before you will be able to begin working. On average it is about four months to get approval to even sit for the NCLEX exam when you go out of the country for CA, and can be even longer.

bookworm888 · Mar 24, 2008

Dear Suzanne and all,

Belated Happy Easter!

Just a question, might turn out to be a silly one, but I'd still ask 'cos I'm clueless about many things about nurse training. Here goes:

Is it possible for a new grad who just completed and passed the local board, NCLEX-RN and TOEFL requirements to get a training in the USA? That is at least 6 months to 1 year training without pay (or even having to pay a hospital for training fees just to get that hands-on experience) then go back home with a brief US expereince. Will there be hospitals in the USA that offer such? If so, what type of Visa for such arrangement must one posses while undergoing training?

Thank you for your time and attention.

Best,

Bookworm888

There is no fastest way to complete any nursing program. And if you train in the Philippines, you will be considered a foreign grad and subject to all of the additional requirements for licensure.
The LPN training is only accepted if you are a US citizen or hold a green card already for the US.
The US actually requires the BSN from there for licensure, as the ADN is not accepted for licensure in the Philippines. One of the requirements of the US is that the training be accepted for licensure in terms of the RN. You will have to complete the full BSN program there.
Just because a program is advertised, does not mean that is meets the requirements for the US. Please be very leary when you are researching programs there in the first place. Always better to obtain your training in the US if you can. There is already much written on this subject.

sabongero · Mar 24, 2008

Hi Suzanne,

Thanks for the heads up but I would like to know where can i verify that info about the PRC does not accept licensure for ADN.

lawrence01 · Mar 24, 2008

Hi Suzanne,
Thanks for the heads up but I would like to know where can i verify that info about the PRC does not accept licensure for ADN.

The local BON only recognizes the BSN. And there is no licensure examination for ADNs in the Philippines. PRC is the Government's regulating body for Professionals - Licensure. There is also no local Board for ADNs and for LPNs and PRC only regulates Professionals and gives licenses to those needing a Board Examination to be licensed.

You can always contact the BON, PNA or PRC if you want further details.

jore from RP · Mar 24, 2008

Hi sabongero,

Where did you happen to hear about this school?

From what I know, ADN/ASN programs in the Philippines is under TESDA.

sabongero · Mar 24, 2008

Hi Lawrence,

Thanks for responding. Do you have to be a license Nurse in P.I to be able to qualify to take the NCLEX.RN here in US?

lawrence01 · Mar 24, 2008

Hi Lawrence,
Thanks for responding. Do you have to be a license Nurse in P.I to be able to qualify to take the NCLEX.RN here in US?

In some States, yes. Each State BON has their own rules and policy and they change very often and the trend is that they are requiring the local license if there is no legal impediment of not taking it. You hold a dual citizenship and so pending actual legal consultation you must be presumed to have no legal impediments of not taking the local boards.

If your birth cert. says born in Ph and you still hold a Philippine passport then the argument of you being able to legally take the local boards goes higher and therefore the more likelihood that you should take up at least the BSN to do so as we already explained why.

Your US Citizen gf is definitely exempted from it, the only thing she has to worry about is if the transcripts she will be getting would be accepted. Your situation, having dual citizenship is slightly diff. as we mentioned.

I think the best and surest way is still to study in the US. If you still want to study in PH, you might as well go straight to BSN and on reputable schools.

suzanne4, RN · Mar 24, 2008

And to add into all of this, the LPN programs there all boast about licensure in the US as the LPN/LVN. But they fail to mention that there are no legal visas for that certification in the US to be able to work. For that specific degree, the person needs to have the green card or the US passport for licensure to be able to work with that license.

We are seeing people literally sold and working illegally in the US, and they are getting deported home.

The requirements for the US with the RN is that the training must be considered first level professional nurse in the country where the person trained. The two year ADN is not accepted for licensure in PI, therefore those that train under that are not considered first level nurses. That is where the big issue is. The PRC only licenses those with the BSN and this is a very well known fact, you just need to check with them.