I am a new grad with 4 years of RN experience. I have been interviewing with a local clinic. They have made me an offer, and I must say that not only am I disappointed, but I have also been unimpressed with the professionalism of this whole process (as far as HR). The clinic(s) are affiliated with a hospital. HR called me in today and acted as if I had already accepted the job. She basically had a sheet to sign saying I accept the job. I proceeded to tell her that I can't just sign a paper, I don't know how much I will make, bonus, schedule, etc. She says oh, and proceeds to tell me may pay will be $30.52 an hour. I asked if this is negotiable and she said "Not really, we try to be fair and start everyone off based on experience." I also asked about the bonus (more on this later). I asked about insurance, etc, she says it is all online for me to read. I kept asking questions, and she just seemed to get more annoyed and acted like anyone else would have just signed the paper!! I left without signing anything, and proceeded to call the directors of the clinics. The job is a full time job (part time at one clinic, and part time at another). The directors agreed with me that they would not have accepted like that either. We finalized my schedule, and they forwarded that to HR so I had it in writing.
Basically the offer is currently this:
Pay: $30.52 an hour (80 hours every 2 weeks)
Bonus: is quarterly, and based off of quarterly visits:
625 patients: $1000
725 patients: $1500
825 patients: $2000
925 patients: $2500
Time off: 8 paid holidays, 120 hours paid off a year
Health Insurance: I do not have all of the details () but I am getting them. Basically what I am reading online is that it is not paid in full. Will have to ask.
Dental Insurance: Same as above, Will have to ask.
403b: There is a match here, but again, I do not have the details as their site does not say!!!!Will have to ask.
CME: $1500 a year
Malpractice: ???? Have to ask.
My first question is, I am a new grad so maybe I had higher expectations of the interview/negotiation process, but is the experience I described above normal? Why on earth would they just assume I accepted the job when I never gave any indication of this? Expecting me to sign that I accept without knowing anything about benefits??
My second question, this offer seems really low to me. I am located in MO, and I know they do not pay the best, but this is really low, even lower than the minimum respondent on the salary survey that was linked from this site for my area. Also, the bonus seems like it would be impossible to ever get the full bonus!!
I plan on telling them that I would like $32 an hour, but I expect them to say no. Maybe I had too high of expectations as a new grad?
i do know a few new graduate (less than 5 years) nps earning over $40 an hour, but they are outliers ime. i don't find that common at all. the person i know doing the best is at about $45/h and that is because he went into a lucrative specialty immediately and stayed with the (large university) system he already worked with for over 20 years as a rn.
i don't think you need to despair that you'll be eating rice and beans, but i don't think you should count on >80k as a new grad np. it is possible, but it depends almost entirely on the market and i am not personally acquainted with any markets that are consistently paying that well for new graduates right now. my practice just dropped our starting salary for nps by 10%, effective jan 1 of this year, which is in line with national trends.
don't freak out, it isn't doom and gloom, but it is a competitive and shrinking job market.
you need to investigate the trend where you live/intend to practice.
) but I am getting them. Basically what I am reading online is that it is not paid in full. Will have to ask.
BlueDevil,DNP, DNP, RN
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i do know a few new graduate (less than 5 years) nps earning over $40 an hour, but they are outliers ime. i don't find that common at all. the person i know doing the best is at about $45/h and that is because he went into a lucrative specialty immediately and stayed with the (large university) system he already worked with for over 20 years as a rn.
i don't think you need to despair that you'll be eating rice and beans, but i don't think you should count on >80k as a new grad np. it is possible, but it depends almost entirely on the market and i am not personally acquainted with any markets that are consistently paying that well for new graduates right now. my practice just dropped our starting salary for nps by 10%, effective jan 1 of this year, which is in line with national trends.
don't freak out, it isn't doom and gloom, but it is a competitive and shrinking job market.
you need to investigate the trend where you live/intend to practice.