First of all I wanted to extend my greetings out to the allnurses.com forum I've been a member shortly and I have learned a great deal just reading these posts.
This is my first post and I've been having trouble on deciding which option or route I should take. I'm a junior level college student taking clinicals upon accepting my application in the fall and I'm not sure which branch of the military I should declare for. I know Army is more field work and I know Navy is more the role of the nurse practioner, But it still hasn't helped which option I should take. Anybody that can relate or has any opinions on this would be a great help.
I can't believe how un-informed the general public is about how Navy Medicine takes care of and works with the Marine Corps. The Marine Corps falls under the Dept of the Navy. Hospital Corpsman, Nurses, Doctors, and Dental techs ALL go to war and work with Marines. The Fleet Hospital gets deployed with the Marines to set up shop and take care of the initial injuries. Go look it up. Also, there is a new book out called Ruffs War, by a retired Navy Nurse Corps officer who was deployed with FH as the start of the Iraq war.
Special forces use Hospital Corpsmen. They do the duty of nurse, doctor, and dentist all in one because they aren't limited by a license. (But it still doesnt pay as well as a Nurse...)
One the note of "to join Army or Navy..." you have to also look at the service and their traditions and attitudes and what you find appealing and important. I for one have a very hard time being around the Army due to their lack of pride in how they wear their uniform. They look sloppy, wear their Cammies out in public like its shorts and a t-shirt and they use any excuse to not wear their cover. Listen to the news and 9/10 people who say they don't believe in the war or President Bush, or anything else for that matter, and they are usually Army. Listen to the Marines and Navy, and you get a much more positive comment. Makes you wonder... And, there is just something about the Navy that is smart, proud, and clean. I don't doubt that there are some great things going on in Army medicine and great people, but for a job, I think you get a much more well-rounded experience as a Navy Nurse. I am getting doen with school as fast as I can to get back into that uniform and back around the people I miss. I adore the Navy. I wouldn't trade my job for anything.
The Marines, by far, are the most squared away with outstanding espirit de corps! However, no one in the military has a free pass to speak in public on political matters. Plus, the AMEDD is an outstanding department within the Army. I'm proud to be a member of the Corps x2!
:innerconf ... AD Army Nurse & USMC Vet [once a Marine, always a Marine].
FYI, me thinks an O-3 out ranks a SNCO. IMHO, you may want to stand down yourself, on the side of military courtesy.
Good copy!
No, an Army Nurse will most likely not go out on point with the Grunts [term of respect, btw]. However, a CSH Unit in the Sandbox is certainly not out of harms way. BTW, what about Medics at Batallion Aid Stations coming under fire?
I was hoping to read this thread for information. Now, I'm a little put off by all the chest thumping and in-your-face rhetoric flying around.
It's wonderful to be proud of your branch of the service, but geez, could you save a little of the snarky attitude for the enemy. And I don't mean someone from another branch of the miltary.
Tell us what you like about your branch without tearing down someone else. Correct misinformation without making derogatory comments. Please.
Those changes will make the thread a whole lot more user-friendly. And they'll make you all look a lot cooler than the sniping going on now.
To put myself on your _initial_ side of this debate, I'll quote myself: "Hey, Corvette Guy, doesn't the Navy deploy medical up front with the Marines . . . Plenty of field work there, eh?" Or something like that.
As for the rest: Dude, I can't believe you went there. Calling Army sloppy? Geez, Louise. Can we be a little bit less reactionary, put erroneous posts in their place in a professional manner, and not react like drunken soccer hooligans? C'mon!
Sincerely and with all respect due the Navy (because we all know it's those Air Force weenies who don't deploy without satellite TV and leather furniture . . . JUST KIDDDINNNNGG!!!!!)
Luv' ya,
former Army CRNA in GA
I can't believe how un-informed the general public is about how Navy Medicine takes care of and works with the Marine Corps. The Marine Corps falls under the Dept of the Navy. Hospital Corpsman, Nurses, Doctors, and Dental techs ALL go to war and work with Marines. The Fleet Hospital gets deployed with the Marines to set up shop and take care of the initial injuries. Go look it up. Also, there is a new book out called Ruffs War, by a retired Navy Nurse Corps officer who was deployed with FH as the start of the Iraq war.
Special forces use Hospital Corpsmen. They do the duty of nurse, doctor, and dentist all in one because they aren't limited by a license. (But it still doesnt pay as well as a Nurse...)
One the note of "to join Army or Navy..." you have to also look at the service and their traditions and attitudes and what you find appealing and important. I for one have a very hard time being around the Army due to their lack of pride in how they wear their uniform. They look sloppy, wear their Cammies out in public like its shorts and a t-shirt and they use any excuse to not wear their cover. Listen to the news and 9/10 people who say they don't believe in the war or President Bush, or anything else for that matter, and they are usually Army. Listen to the Marines and Navy, and you get a much more positive comment. Makes you wonder... And, there is just something about the Navy that is smart, proud, and clean. I don't doubt that there are some great things going on in Army medicine and great people, but for a job, I think you get a much more well-rounded experience as a Navy Nurse. I am getting doen with school as fast as I can to get back into that uniform and back around the people I miss. I adore the Navy. I wouldn't trade my job for anything.
I was hoping to read this thread for information. Now, I'm a little put off by all the chest thumping and in-your-face rhetoric flying around.
It's wonderful to be proud of your branch of the service, but geez, could you save a little of the snarky attitude for the enemy. And I don't mean someone from another branch of the miltary.
Tell us what you like about your branch without tearing down someone else. Correct misinformation without making derogatory comments. Please.
Those changes will make the thread a whole lot more user-friendly. And they'll make you all look a lot cooler than the sniping going on now.
IMHO, just a little intense rivalry among military guys. I don't think any disrespect was intended. Often times I'll hear Soldiers in casual conversation talking down the Marine Corps, but I love the look on their faces when I inform them I'm a Marine Vet.
IMHO, just a little intense rivalry among military guys. I don't think any disrespect was intended. Often times I'll hear Soldiers in casual conversation talking down the Marine Corps, but I love the look on their faces when I inform them I'm a Marine Vet.
Understood. But think how this all might sound to a 20-year-old newbie making his or her first post. Or to the rest of us who aren't used to having to take cover and dodge a hail of blazing testosterone molecules.
I'm not saying you can't do your respective chest thumping. Only saying that maybe you guys should start another thread. Then you can have a heck of a good rumble and no one will get hurt.
Think of the bartender saying, "Take it outside, boys. Take it outside."
Chest thumping aside, the initial post was indeed incorrect regarding lack of frontline action for nurses. Imagine a "newbie" as you put it thinking he/ she can join the military and not have to be where the action is? That is the real problem and could be misleading. As for the rest, I'm with my bud Vette Man, just standard military rivalry stuff, no disrespect intended. If anything, it should show how proud we all are of our military backgrounds and what a privlege it is to serve. That should be the take home message here. Still someone can learn from it. Also keep in mind it's not always about testosterone, plenty of estrogen in our armed services too.
Understood. But think how this all might sound to a 20-year-old newbie making his or her first post. Or to the rest of us who aren't used to having to take cover and dodge a hail of blazing testosterone molecules.
I'm not saying you can't do your respective chest thumping. Only saying that maybe you guys should start another thread. Then you can have a heck of a good rumble and no one will get hurt.
Think of the bartender saying, "Take it outside, boys. Take it outside."
This is the Military Nursing Forum, correct? Kind of like a bunch of military folks sitting at the dinner table in the Chow Hall, or Mess Tent.
Chest thumping aside, the initial post was indeed incorrect regarding lack of frontline action for nurses. Imagine a "newbie" as you put it thinking he/ she can join the military and not have to be where the action is? That is the real problem and could be misleading. As for the rest, I'm with my bud Vette Man, just standard military rivalry stuff, no disrespect intended. If anything, it should show how proud we all are of our military backgrounds and what a privlege it is to serve. That should be the take home message here. Still someone can learn from it. Also keep in mind it's not always about testosterone, plenty of estrogen in our armed services too.
LT Dan
Agreed! LOL, it is the Nurse Corps where males are still in the minority [just to a lesser degree than in civilian nursing].
I was just telling my guys, you're always there to get my back. It doesn't matter in the end, we're all military nurses. I LOVE THIS PLACE!!!! (I think I need to come off night shift now). I only have 4 weeks until I move back to the states and then it's off to grad school, can't wait.
Chest thumping aside, the initial post was indeed incorrect regarding lack of frontline action for nurses. Imagine a "newbie" as you put it thinking he/ she can join the military and not have to be where the action is? That is the real problem and could be misleading. As for the rest, I'm with my bud Vette Man, just standard military rivalry stuff, no disrespect intended. If anything, it should show how proud we all are of our military backgrounds and what a privlege it is to serve. That should be the take home message here. Still someone can learn from it. Also keep in mind it's not always about testosterone, plenty of estrogen in our armed services too.
LT Dan
Yeah, you wouldn't want someone coming in with that part misunderstood.
And you're right about the estrogen in the mix. One of my daughters was in the Army Reserves. Her brother was active duty Air Force. So I DO understand the friendly rivalry. Just thought it might be getting a little intense for someone new to the board.
I'd say carry on, men (and women), but then you probably would.
Thanks for your honorable service in whatever branch you're a part of. I am grateful to every one of you for your contributions.
IMHO, you may want to stand down yourself, on the side of military courtesy.
Corvette Guy
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The Marines, by far, are the most squared away with outstanding espirit de corps! However, no one in the military has a free pass to speak in public on political matters. Plus, the AMEDD is an outstanding department within the Army. I'm proud to be a member of the Corps x2!
:innerconf ... AD Army Nurse & USMC Vet [once a Marine, always a Marine].