My OBLC experiences

[IU95]

I am currently at OBLC (Officer Basic Leader Course) in Ft. Sam Houston. I will try to give a brief overview so future students can have an idea and hopefully be prepared.

I am not in the ANC (Army Nurse Corp), I am a Clinical Laboratory Officer in the MSC (Medical Service Corp). I am a licensed practical nurse and am working on my BSN.

Our class started on April 9th, 2007. This 1st week was mainly administrative type tasks, like ID cards, filling out travel vouchers, submitting dependent information, brief dental exam, immunizations, etc. We did have lectures and workshops on things like military leadership, writing skills, etc. too.

Even though the OBLC website showed a class size of about 230, our class is only about 135 soldiers.

Thoughts from week 1:

1) Many of us are prior service. Learn from the prior enlisted Army soldiers! Incredibly helpful. My prior service was Navy so some basics like military courtesies and military bearing I knew, but the Army does do many things differently. Be patient and listen. They will teach you.

2) I have noticed that a few soldiers who are straight from civilian life have had some issues with being on time for formation. Trust me, you do not want to be late!! You are not in college anymore!! This is the military. Be early!! You do not want the huge negative attention you will receive not to mention the anger of your fellow soldiers that have to be there earlier and earlier because some can't make it on time.

3) Bring all of the documents listed on the OBLC website. Makes life easier for you. Don't forget shot records. You can't prove it, you get stuck again!

4) You definitely should get at least 1 set of ACU's (Army Combat Uniform) prior to arrival. We wore PT outfit 1st day and ACU's after that. A few did not have ACU's and wore PT gear the 2nd day. You don't want to stick out like a sore thumb. There are mail order sources if you are not near a post. Don't forget ACU name tags. I ordered mine through U.S. Cavalry and am very pleased with them.

5) Do NOT fall asleep in class!! It is hot, humid and sometimes you have been up since 0330 or so. Again, you do not want this negative attention on yourself. Only water is allowed in the auditoriums and classrooms, so I bring Vivarin and take if I need. Also, standing up and moving to the back is acceptable and not a negative on you.

6) If at all possible bring a laptop or desktop computer. It will make your life easier. Bring a printer if you can. I was one of only a few that had a printer in their room so many people were coming to me to print stuff.

Thoughts from week 2:

1) Sadly we are still having issues with some people being tardy. The unfortunate consequence of this is all of us will now have to be in formation 3 times a day for accountability. This takes away from our already sporifice free time during the week. I realize this will seem strange to non prior service. In the military you are a team and even if only a few do not conform, frequently there will be consequences for the whole unit.

2) PFT (Physical Fitness Test): Oh boy, this was unpleasant for many. You would be wise to heed their advice to be in shape when you arrive here. Approximately 1/3 of my class did not pass the PFT. The test consists of push ups, sit ups, and a 2 mile run. If you fail any part, you fail it all. Most people had problems on the run. Now, usually when you fail a PFT, you are "flagged". This basically means you are ineligible for positive actions including promotion. The PFT is taken quite seriously. For those who failed, they do morning PT 5 days a week. The rest do PT 3 days a week. At the end of the course, there will be another PFT test for those who failed the 1st one. You can download an Excel spreadsheet from here which will show you what your minimums are for your gender and age:

http://www.cs.amedd.army.mil/187medbn/alpha/

I have been told direct commissions "off the street" are a special category and have 180 days to pass, but they really strive to have everyone pass before leaving OBLC.

3) This week has kicked into high gear with PowerPoint presentations. They jokingly call it "Death by PowerPoint". Some of it is interesting, other subjects quite dry. Not being able to drink coffee in there is absolutely brutal for many of us, including me. Oh well. Don't forget, standing up in the back of the class is OK if you can't stay awake.

4) A little item I did not know before this. Apparently in the Army (not sure of other services), 2nd lieutenants do not salute 1st lieutenants. I do get a salute from a 2nd lieutenant occasionally, but rarely.

5) There are a lot of E-1 through E-4's here. Here is a website showing the rank insignia: http://www.military-quotes.com/ranks/army-rank-insignia.htm

Many are just out of BCT (Basic Combat Training). Some, for whatever reason, walk by without saluting. At first myself and my classmates were unsure how we were supposed to handle this situation. Our cadre (our instructors and leadership) instructed us that we DO NOT have the authority to "smoke" them (Make them do push ups, etc.). But, they told us that if we do not correct the problem, then we are part of the problem. So, now if it happens, we get their attention and ask them if they forgot to do something. Most at this point come to attention, apologize and salute. You don't have to be an ass to help them. They get enough of that from their drill sergeants!

Thoughts from week 3:

1) The long PowerPoint days continue. We each had to give a short PowerPoint presentation. This is another time you will be happy if you have a personal computer. Also very nice to have PowerPoint installed and if you have no clue how to use PowerPoint, at least learn the basics before you get here.

2) PT continues 5 days a week for those who did not pass initially. Just another reminder that reporting here in decent physical condition will make life easier on you.

3) We are going to the field the next 3 weeks for FTX's (field training exercises). We do come back to FSH (Fort Sam Houston) on the weekends.

4) Tardiness issue has improved drastically. Thankfully, people are getting the idea now.

Thoughts from week 4:

1) Had our first FTX (Field Training Exercise). For those prior service Army/Marines, I'm sure it is a cakewalk, but for those of us who have never done this, it was a bear. Most days about 12-13 hours from reveille till your free for the day. Thursday was about 17 hours.

A rough list of tasks: M-16 & M-9(9mm) training/qualification, CBRN(Chemical,biological,radiological, nuclear) training, land navigation, 3 mile ruck march, basic tactical formations, and a practice medevac casualty exercise on Friday.

2) Gas, gas, gas! Part of your CBRN training is enduring the infamous CS Gas chamber. Look, it sucks, but everybody has to do it and you will survive. Not one of us died! You also get to put that wonderfully hot chemical protective suit and mask on in the sweltering Texas heat until your instructor tells you all clear. Fun day, heh.

3) Land navigation. You will learn how to use a compass and map to plot and navigate. There is a daytime and night time land navigation exercise.You will also be taught a basic GPS handheld and will also have a mounted land navigation exercise in a vehicle.

4) You will learn how to field strip a M16A2 rifle down and reassemble it with a complete function check within 4 minutes. Many of you will be able to do this blindfolded! I never would have believed it but I witnessed it. Unfortunately I couldn't quite get the 4 minutes blindfolded, but I felt I did quite well considering I had never even touched this weapon prior to OBLC. You will also learn how to disassemble and reassemble the 9mm, which is easier.

5) Some items to consider that may not be on your packing list:

Benadryl (if you need help sleeping)

ibufrofen (or whatever your preferred painkiller is)

moleskin plus (many people developed blisters)

luggage tags or similar for your duffel bag (they all look the same)

small knife/multi-purpose tool (always useful in the field)

sunscreen (this is Texas!)

bug repellent (these mosquitoes can be vicious) chiggers too; also recommend a small container of repellent you can carry with you.

hand sanitizer

earplugs (up to 38 people per tent, some snore!, alarms beeping, storms; I like the silicone type)

wet wipes (at this time there are no showers)

electric razor

ziploc bags (to keep stuff dry)

plenty of socks as many times they will get soaked from trekking through wet fields or if it is raining

small pillow (I got a compressible Thermarest from REI)

bed cushion (Those cots are rock hard, at least for me. I bought a roll able, self-inflating bed roll from the PX)

hyrdrocortisone/Benadryl creme (for those inevitable bug bites)

Gatorade/Propel, etc. to flavor that nasty tasting drinking water. Many brands come in little tubes that work well in a canteen.

Small notebook (you can buy waterproof ones at the clothing sales PX)

Extra sets of ACU's (they will get wet/filthy/smelly. Consider though, it is difficult to get them completely clean again so they will unlikely be "perfect" ACU's anymore.)

Thoughts from week 5:

1) This week was group oriented type tasks versus individual tasks last week. We did things like LRC (Leader Reaction Course), MOUT (Military Operations Urban Terrain) which was 4 person teams clearing buildings and urban warfare training, 2 days of convoy ops training, and retesting for those who did not pass night and/or day land navigation last week.

2) This week still had some long days but seemed to be a slower tempo and less traveling around via the deuce and a halfs.

Thoughts from week 6:

1) The op tempo seemed higher than week 5, but still less intense than week 4. This week was the grand finale AMEDD FTX. Monday was just movement to the FOB and some CLS (Combat lifesaver) classes. Tuesday through Thursday were the exercises. There were three groups which each day rotated through the 3 main areas. We also had the BOLC (Basic Officer Leader Course) group with us this week.

2) The mornings were more training sessions, then the exercise was in the afternoon followed by the evaluation/discussion.

3) I was lucky to be picked as a "casualty" a few times. This is a good experience as you get to see the whole process from a 1st hand perspective. Volunteer for this if is offered to you.

4) Friday we did a 5 mile road march and then toured a scaled down CSH (Combat Support Hospital).

Thoughts from week 7:

1) Last week!! The tempo was definitely more relaxed this week. Still doing PT. Another PT test was administered for those that did not pass initially.

2) More classes on subjects like OER (Officer Evaluation Reports), NCOER (Non-Commissioned Officer Reports), writing awards, etc.

Officership type material.

3) Next week we enter our AOC specific tracks.

4) Graduation ceremony was fairly quick and easy. Family members were allowed. Our uniform was ACU's.

Well, it's done for me now. Hopefully this information will make future OBLC students transition into the Army a bit smoother.

1LT Joseph L Cheser

[Gennaver, MSN]

Currently the new officer clothing allowance is $600. It is a one time deal.

It would be ideal to try the items on first, but if this is not an option, here is a link to Ranger Joes PT clothing.

http://www.rangerjoes.com/clothing-pt-c-100_105.html

BTW, a yellow reflective belt is considered part of the PT uniform and is mandatory.

IU95,

As always you are incredibly helpful and I hope you know it is appreciated!

Do you know when the clothing allowance is given?

Also, do you think it'd be wise to order three sets of pt? (three shirts and shorts?)

Finally, how many ACU pants and tops would you recommend right off the bat? Seeing as I will not have ten days transition between OBLC and reporting for duty, (being stationed there I do not get the time).

With appreciation,

Gen

[PRicanRN]

is this the same military wide also, do you have to have your housing arranged before you get there and uniforms also?

[Gennaver, MSN]

is this the same military wide also, do you have to have your housing arranged before you get there and uniforms also?

Hi,

I doubt that people that are not pscing at the same post as training is at will need to have their housing arranged.

Someone also told me that the store is pretty low and out of many sizes in order to go to training, (was also on the official OBLC website) and it recommends having as much as you can prior to going.

Gen

[Rme4life]

1.what sort of track did you take the pt test on??? i was hoping it would NOT be an 8 lap track.

2.can you hook up to the computer via wireless or do you need to bring cables to hook up to the phone line?

3.how did the rest of your training go? i'm a nurse, but did you feel your training was more laid back the second half, more intense, the same?

thanks

[Gennaver, MSN]

1.what sort of track did you take the pt test on??? i was hoping it would NOT be an 8 lap track.

2.can you hook up to the computer via wireless or do you need to bring cables to hook up to the phone line?

3.how did the rest of your training go? i'm a nurse, but did you feel your training was more laid back the second half, more intense, the same?

thanks

Hello Rme4life,

While I do not know what IU95's reply will be I have read before that it will be on a 1/4 mile track. I've been trying to get accustomed, again, (former track runner) to going in circles again, (counter-clockwise as the myth is that runners are running against time).

However, I need to put way more attention to my sit ups for now too.

Just yesterday I received a packet of San Antonio information from my BAMC sponsor and see that there is a track listed on the map as being somewhat close to BAMC.

Getting ready. :)

Gen

[Rme4life]

i just received my orders for oblc and they are for a total of 10 weeks. does anybody know why this class might be going a week longer? i know that we have one holiday, but adding an entire week seems like a lot. i guess it doesn't really matter one way or the other but just curious of why the extra week.

[cobber]

I still have not recieved my OBLC orders but when I talked to the LTC in charge of the ANCP/AECP students...she told me that it would be 11 weeks long but my PCS orders for Hawii put me reporting there only a day or so after we would be done if it is 11 weeks...so I was a little confused too.

[ArmyKitten]

Wow. I have been out of OBLC for over a year now (I was in the March 2006 class), and while a few things have changed most have not.

After working for a year, here are my recommendations:

4 sets ACUs

minimum 8 tan t-shirts

minimum 8 pair socks

2 berets- both shaved, shaped and ready to wear (what if you lost your current one...you would be screwed, so have a back-up)

Several sets of ACU velcro goodies (flag, AMEDD patch, name tape, army tape, rank)

2 pair of broken in boots- continue to rotate wearing them when you get to your unit

Don't forget to enjoy OBLC. I was there for 4 months, it was absolutely the best time of my life. We had a blast. Parties/dinners/BBQs every weekend, weekend trips to the beach, float trips on the river, horseback riding- I would love to go back. Some of my closest friends now were people I met at OBLC. Enjoy it, because the time goes by fast.

At the end of OBLC everyone is split into their branch courses. All the nurses get together, all the MSC people, etc. You spend the last two weeks strictly with your branch. You will be given the name/phone number of a contact person at your post. Phone or email this person as soon as you can and give them the date that you will be reporting. Your contact person can answer your questions about where to report, when, what uniform, what to bring, etc. If you are a new nurse you will probably be assigned to Med/Surg or Mother/Baby. Ask what the Army nurses wear in that area (some places wear scrubs, others wear ACUs). When it comes time to inprocess, your contact person can meet you somewhere on post and guide you through the basics to get you set up. He/she cant do everything for you, but they can certainly make things easier for you if you utilize them as a resource.

Arriving at your duty station...report in, start the in-processing fun. This can take days. At some point of your first week you will meet with supervisory staff for the hospital nursing department. Questions I was asked: What is your background, what career path are you looking to take, do you have a preference for where in the hospital you work. Some places that are small may already have you assigned somewhere and you may not get your choice- even if you hate L&D you are going to be stuck there. I am at Ft Hood, and I was asked my choice, so I consider myself lucky. Good luck to you on this, and remember that it is much better to say why you would be better in one section than to say why you would hate being in another.

Tip: When you are learning to write the OER and OER JODSF forms at OBLC, pay attention. Your head nurse is going to expect a JODSF out of you within a week, and you can't do the same half-orificed version you probably did at OBLC just to get a grade. If you need help or want examples, ask- fellow 2LTs will help you out.

You ask about deployments. Here is where the real fun begins. My notification that I was PROFIS to a unit came 6 months after I had been working on the ward. I was pulled into the hall and notified that 1. I was PROFIS to a CSH, and 2. That CSH was deploying. Fantasic! Now what? Ask tons of questions. Research the CSH on the internet, find out where they have been and where they are going. Ask what the mission is. Most importantly, talk to someone in your area at the hospital that is also preparing to deploy (there is always someone about to leave) and find out what things you need to do before you go. Start a to-do notebook because a list will never be enough. Records, shots, training...there will be a million things to do and not much guidance. You need to be able to ask questions and initiate things on your own.

Good luck to you all. Luckily as a general rule 2LT Nurses DO NOT eat their young, and are willing to help out the newbie. See some of you in the sandbox.

[Gennaver, MSN]

Wow. I have been out of OBLC for over a year now (I was in the March 2006 class), and while a few things have changed most have not.

After working for a year, here are my recommendations:

4 sets ACUs

minimum 8 tan t-shirts

minimum 8 pair socks

2 berets- both shaved, shaped and ready to wear (what if you lost your current one...you would be screwed, so have a back-up)

Several sets of ACU velcro goodies (flag, AMEDD patch, name tape, army tape, rank)

2 pair of broken in boots- continue to rotate wearing them when you get to your unit

Don't forget to enjoy OBLC. I was there for 4 months, it was absolutely the best time of my life. We had a blast. Parties/dinners/BBQs every weekend, weekend trips to the beach, float trips on the river, horseback riding- I would love to go back. Some of my closest friends now were people I met at OBLC. Enjoy it, because the time goes by fast.

...Good luck to you all. Luckily as a general rule 2LT Nurses DO NOT eat their young, and are willing to help out the newbie. See some of you in the sandbox.

Army Kitten,

Thank you for taking the time to post. It was helpful and encouraging.

Gen-a new 2LT

p.s. I hadn't even considered asking my sponsor at BAMC what uniforms the nurses wear...

[RedNeon]

Thanks for all the wonderful information. I am headed to OBLC next year as a 71A

laboratory science officer. I realize this is primarily a nursing forum, but I would love to learn as much as possible about the types of day-to-day duties performed by 71A's. If anyone has experience in this area please share what you can.

Also, does anyone have a breakdown on how many push-ups, sit-ups, ect. I will have to do in a day's time?

Thanks and have a great day!

[Gennaver, MSN]

Thanks for all the wonderful information. I am headed to OBLC next year as a 71A

laboratory science officer. I realize this is primarily a nursing forum, but I would love to learn as much as possible about the types of day-to-day duties performed by 71A's. If anyone has experience in this area please share what you can.

Also, does anyone have a breakdown on how many push-ups, sit-ups, ect. I will have to do in a day's time?

Thanks and have a great day!

Hello and welcome,

The APFT, (Army Physical Fitness Test) standards can be found here:

http://www.la.ngb.army.mil/156BAND/apft.html

Good luck!

Gen

[Jere2012]

thank you for your informative summary of your oblc experience. i too plan on following the same path when i graduate. i have a question - how did you go about achieving the rank of 1lt? what are the criteria for promotion, etc.? what rank are you when you attend oblc if any?