Published Aug 7, 2007
Sherwood
223 Posts
Mt. Sinai RN's voted 152 to 293 AGAINST union respresentation by the California Nurse Association/ National Nurses Organizing Comittee.
Congratulations on keeping the Profession Professional!!!
OC_An Khe
1,018 Posts
It doesn't matter to me if the nurses vote for or against unionization at their facility. However, being a member in a Union has nothing to do with whether you are a professional or not. Some of the most powerful unions in this country are made up of professionals.
HM2VikingRN, RN
4,700 Posts
The Chamber of Commerce is a union for businessman as is the NFIB, etc.
That being said the equation of union membership as non-professional is a fatuous statement on its face.
The Chamber of Congress is a union for businessman as is the NFIB, etc.That being said the equation of union membership as non-professional is a fatuous statement on its face.
I could not find in a google search what the Chamber of Congress is. I looked up the NFIB which calls themselves a small business advocacy group. Membership is voluntary and they think pretty poorly of labor unions judging from the action center link on their home page which states "STOP THE UNION AGENDA" and links to the following:
http://www.nfib.com/object/NFIBCardCheck.html
Thank you very much as I do not have this link on my own website but will be adding it now.
We voted against the California Nurses Association twice at my hospital, Western Medical Center in Santa Ana, California. I am proud to have had a small hand in educating the nurses at Mt Sinai.
Sherwood Cox, R.N., CCRN
I guess you ment Chamber of Commerce?
They don't consider themselves a Labor Union either and membership is purely voluntary.
Here is some links to their website and their position on unions.
http://www.uschamber.com/issues/index/labor/nlra.htm
http://www.uschamber.com/NR/rdonlyres/eidlsku6ej3zrhlmm4qllk62iiteydn7dezcttkwhxmvkz4u4nh5pp6naz6l2t2r2cvl5ravsot3wq43yv76ktnds2d/04072004cardcheckFactsheet.pdf
http://www.uschamber.com/NR/rdonlyres/enio7vmjn6soib43gcm7pm7mk2p2q3rfy3atv7l6hep24w3zzmb4dhzclsglpjz6frb5oc72mzqqb7m7lwvpoa26wyc/SecretBallotProtectionActPolicyPaperPDF.pdf
Judging from these statements the Chamber of COMMERCE is not a union.
But call me FATUOUS....... http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/fatuous
bigreddog1934
105 Posts
sherwood - just out of curiosity, where did you get this story? i would be interested in reading more about it as someone who is considering transfer to their trauma center one day.
I was contacted by RN's there through my website many months ago and have kept in touch ever since. They let me know via email once the votes were counted.
They actual election was held June but the NNOC stalled on counting the votes until earlier this week. I guess they anticipated the outcome.
I did a search and come up with this link:
http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?rssFeed=news&id=25945&seenIt=1
I hope it helps!
well its clear the business community is happy about the outcome here. undoubtedly this is a significant defeat for the young union in chicago. it will send a chill through nurses trying to organize in the future.
The NNOC is no young union!!! It is a branch of California Nurses Association and they have been around for YEARS. The CNA is having a hard time fooling the nurses in California anymore so has had to branch out to other states.
the cna is the fastest growing union, member for member in the united states. it is very young by comparrison (u.b.c was founded in 1886) and is only a couple of years old in the city of chicago.
the cna can be voted out of the hospitals in california or at any facilty. after the 5:1 pt. to nurse ratio, this is not likely to happen.
read babbitt:
author:lewis, sinclair, 1885–1951.title:babbitt, by sinclair lewis.published:new york: harcourt, brace and company, 1922.isbn:1-58734-030-5.citation:lewis, sinclair. babbitt. new york: harcourt, brace and company, 1922; bartleby.com, 1999. www.bartleby.com/162/. [date of printout].on-line ed.:published august 1999 by bartleby.com; © copyright bartleby.com, inc. (terms of use).
“a good labor union is of value because it keeps out radical unions, which would destroy property. no one ought to be forced to belong to a union, however. all labor agitators who try to force men to join a union should be hanged. in fact, just between ourselves, there oughtn’t to be any unions allowed at all; and as it’s the best way of fighting the unions, every business man ought to belong to an employers’-association and to the chamber of commerce. in union there is strength. so any selfish hog who doesn’t join the chamber of commerce ought to be forced to.”
http://209.10.134.179/162/4.html