Medicare for everyone is a public option

[HM2VikingRN]

The analysis finds the reconstituted House proposal to be deficit neutral, and require less than $900 billion (reportedly around $870 billion) in new spending, over ten years.

The bill remains nominally more expensive than the Senate Finance Committee proposal, but would cover 96 percent of all Americans, providing greater bang for each federal dollar spent. And, aides note, the bill that comes to the floor of the Senate will be a hybrid of the Finance and more expensive HELP Committee bills, so the price is expected to rise.

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And House health care principals have been working doggedly to keep the price of reform down with the help of the public option--so in a sense, the news of this final push comes as little surprise: Pelosi is, as expected, using the fiscal responsibility of the robust public option to win over enough skeptics in her caucus to pass it. And she is, reportedly, very close to doing that.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/pelosi-prepares-to-move-ahead-with-robust-public-option.php?ref=fpblg

[tewdles, RN]

and again...another strawman offered up....now we are going to examine avatars rather than stay on topic. By the by...who exactly mentioned Ft. Hood first in this thread? Oh right, the person opposed to reform...

[Onekidneynurse]

What, reduced to red-baiting??

Well is it or isn't it? A simple question that shouldn't require much of an answer. Yes or no would suffice. Of course because this program won't recognize yes or no alone one would have to add a few ......'s

[Onekidneynurse]

and again...another strawman offered up....now we are going to examine avatars rather than stay on topic. By the by...who exactly mentioned Ft. Hood first in this thread? Oh right, the person opposed to reform...

Please don't put words in my mouth. If you'd rather not answer the question you don't have to.

I've never said I was opposed to reform. What I said was I am opposed to the form that reform would take. I am opposed to a half baked unworkable solution run by an efficient incapable government.

[Onekidneynurse]

Please don't put words in my mouth. If you'd rather not answer the question you don't have to.

I've never said I was opposed to reform. What I said was I am opposed to the form that reform would take. I am opposed to a half baked unworkable solution run by an efficient incapable government.

BTW I'm surprised YOU'D bring up the strawman issue anyway.

[Onekidneynurse]

I don't understand this post.

Do you want us to have a military?

Social Security?

Medicare?

I want it run correctly. Why the hesitation on Afghanistan. Either we are in or we are out. Why drag our feet either way. Pi** or get off the pot for heaven's sake and for the soldiers and Marines over there now.

[tewdles, RN]

I am a bit concerned that folks are getting a bit too "heated" in this thread.

[Onekidneynurse]

I am a bit concerned that folks are getting a bit too "heated" in this thread.

So am I. Have you asked TPTB to close this one too?

[tewdles, RN]

I haven't asked anyone to close anything.

[SilentMind]

So am I. Have you asked TPTB to close this one too?

It happens a lot. I think Health care activism is kind of a red zone for the moderators around here. I'm sure we get more threads closed then most of the other forums combined. It's the nature of the subject. But it doesn't help that the majority of the staff seems to be pro-H.R. 3962. In any case, AN isn't really the place for getting into these debates anyways.

[Onekidneynurse]

It happens a lot. I think Health care activism is kind of a red zone for the moderators around here. I'm sure we get more threads closed then most of the other forums combined. It's the nature of the subject. But it doesn't help that the majority of the staff seems to be pro-H.R. 3962. In any case, AN isn't really the place for getting into these debates anyways.

Then they should delete the whole category?