Medical Board Nursing Board Whats up?

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So physicians are under the state medcial boards and nurse practitioners are under the nursing board. I know they say that NP's don't practice medicine, but rather we practice "nursing" but frankly I think this doesn't make sense. First of all, If I meet a patient or discuss with people about my role, I'd like to tell them that I practice medicine.

So what is up with the two separate boards? Can somone explain to me why NP's, who are basically doing everything a physicain is doing, not trying to become part of the state medical board and fighting to get leaders as part of the medical boards instead of creating our own NP nursing board to practice "nursing" instead of medicine?

Or why don't they just make a new board called the board of healthcare providers or something. Is it mostly an Ego thing that there needs to be two separate boards when we are all practicing medicine as healthcare providers and should be governed under the same laws and such?

Specializes in GENERAL.

...in the meantime I'll be working on the cure for cancer.....

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Heard the word assimilate and thought of the Borg from Star Trek lol

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
I am not unsatisfied. I am just confused about the politics of it all. I understand we learn less hard sciences, but I frankly don't see how I am not being trained to be anything different when I get an MD preceptor.

Like I said, you're best off not being managed by the "man."

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
I have provided clinical supervision in the past to MSW and LPC students, supervising them in the areas of overlap between our practices. Having me (a psych CNS) as a preceptor didn't suddenly make them nurses, or mean that they were practicing nursing.

Please tell me you taught them something besides "processing."

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Getting precepted by a good MD in my opinion is the best and how I learned most of what I know however our brief clinical experiences even with MDs are not able to bridge the gap between what physicians are taught and what nurses are taught. If you come into this bucking at MDs your life will be fraught with misery on many levels. My advice is to embrace their knowledge and do what you can to assimilate with them and operate as they do in your particular hospital setting.

How come studies show NP outcomes on B/P, DM and hyperlipidemia are equal or better than physicians? That clearly indicates NP know more than physicians :cheeky:...

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
How come studies show NP outcomes on B/P, DM and hyperlipidemia are equal or better than physicians? That clearly indicates NP know more than physicians :cheeky:...

Is it because they follow the algorithm designed to measure quality and don't need any education to do so?

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Car salesman would prolly be the best at treating diabetes. Put down that nacho and jog 5 miles. Diabeetus diabeetus

probably the the other two also come to think of it.

We all know healthcare is a big sham anyway. I mean if everybody ate healthy and exercised half of us would be out of business till people hit 80 and started wearing down lol.

Bring in on the McDonald's!!!!

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Car salesman would prolly be the best at treating diabetes. Put down that nacho and jog 5 miles. Diabeetus diabeetus

probably the the other two also come to think of it.

We all know healthcare is a big sham anyway. I mean if everybody ate healthy and exercised half of us would be out of business till people hit 80 and started wearing down lol.

Bring in on the McDonald's!!!!

But but but most NP drink the kook-aid...

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
But but but most NP drink the kook-aid...

The red dye in Kool aid makes me act weird.

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Specializes in Hospital medicine; NP precepting; staff education.
Heard the word assimilate and thought of the Borg from Star Trek lol

Resistance is futile.

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Specializes in Hospital medicine; NP precepting; staff education.
The red dye in Kool aid makes me act weird.

Is that why you keep drinking it?

I kid, I kid.

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I am not unsatisfied. I am just confused about the politics of it all. I understand we learn less hard sciences, but I frankly don't see how I am not being trained to be anything different when I get an MD preceptor.

Sorry, 😆 you don't sound confused but sounds like you want to be MD so bad... Get a medical degree if you need to tell people that you practice medicine just like any MD. NP are first and foremost nurses. You can make the same arguments for LPN vs RN, because based on location, you had an RN Preceptor or pharmacist vs pharmacy technician, because you had a pharmacy preceptor or even psychiatrists vs PhD psychologists (just throwing that into the mix). What is wrong with owning the words NURSE (add advanced if you like) practioner??!

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