Published Dec 31, 2015
Alicia777, MSN, NP
329 Posts
Hi there. Just wondering if anyone would have the answer...
I round on surgical inpatients in the morning, write notes and discharge them home after talking with MD. I know my surgeons need to see the patient within a certain widow of time (if they are staying in-house), but I don't know specifics and a few have asked. Is this state or institution-specific?
Corey Narry, MSN, RN, NP
8 Articles; 4,452 Posts
I've not come across states that mandate a physician signature for orders written by NP's. It goes along with the prescriptive authority we are supposed to have in all the 50 states (albeit with various degrees of collaborative/supervisory requirement from physicians).
I've worked in the in-patient setting in many hospitals in 2 different states and not have any policy that my orders are signed by a physician (some places my notes have to be co-signed for shared billing). Check the language of your hospital by-laws and how your privileges are described.
The point of being credentialed by the institution you work for is that the medical staff have verified your qualifications to function as an independent licensed provider on your team.
Thanks Juan. You know, I think a part of my confusion is that the majority of co-workers I have are PAs, which do require it. I will look into it..
TakeTwoAspirin, MSN, RN, APRN
1,018 Posts
Sounds like they are billing your services "incident to" a physician for the higher reimbursement rate.
Doubt that you're using "incident to billing" as that is not applicable in the in-patient setting. Besides, you are in a surgical specialty where billing is bundled under the surgical procedure. Also the act of writing orders in the hospital (much like writing a prescription in the clinic) is not a billable service. We don't get paid for the amount of orders we write.
I really think this is just misinformation on your physicians part as far as thinking that there is a requirement to co-sign your orders. Again, I would seek clarification with whoever is in charge at your institution. I personally would hate having to have physicians sign my orders as if they are verbal orders written by RN's. Our PA's also write orders independently, by the way.