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Didn't get news on till after 7pm last night. Caught tale end of SARS report. It is out of control in China and we all knew that. There was something disturbing about possibility of people being infectious for a lot longer than orginally thought. Also, I saw report on internet about relapses and new cases in Toronto. Anyone have links?

I see Brian has a new article posted, just click on Home.

We've posted this before; will post it again.

There is no place on the Internet with as comprehensive info on SARS as TimeBomb2000. TB2K has daily SARS threads as well as complimentary threads. There are links to all the other SARS info outlets on these threads.

TB2K runs on vB the same as allnurses, so the software will be familiar to you. The Search engine is excellent: use it! Type in SARS and see how many threads you'll get: all chock-full of important info.

Every day brings more and more news and data about precautions.

TimeBomb2000:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=9

Use the Search engine.

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I thought I had read every SARS thread on this site. I guess I missed one or more because this is the first I heard of the timebomb site. Of particular interest to me is the report of the two different types of SARS. Thanks, I love it when someone introduces me to a new web site.

You are most welcome :)

As healthcare workers we feel we need to keep up on SARS news to be ready to protect ourselves.

WHOA!! Did you see that fatality rate on the site ChainedChaos just gave us?

Once again, interesting article in Pittsburgh Post-Gazette to which I can't find a link. It was supposedly first posted in a Philly paper, Knight Ridder. Anyway, this is the title of the paper.. US called ill-equipped for SARS. It is about a GAO study and this is a summary of what it says. Most hospitals lack adequate equipment, isolation facilities and staff to handle a large scale infectious disease outbreak. At the annual meeting of ER docs in DC this is what was said. "The current SARS outbreak is like a two acre fire in a timber dry forest." Things could easily go from bad to worse. "Emergency rooms are now near the breaking point because hospitals are overcrowded with non-emergency patients who are housed in trama units while waiting for beds, medicaid cuts are squeezing budgets and serious nursing shortages make everything even worse. Because of these problems, big city emergency rooms were closed to ambulances for an average of 162 hours in 2001." I might point out that since 2001 many states have cut back on psych services and now ERs are being crowed with patients with mental health problems waiting to be admitted. So the situation is likely worse now than in previous years. If this disease makes a second pass and the US gets hit in the future much harder than it has this time we are in big trouble. The problems probably vary from city to city and I think the Burg hospitals are probably better off than most. We have only lost 2 or 3 ERs in last 3 years. You don't want to be in CAlifornia when the big crunch comes.

Once again I would like to recommend the above links provided by Cascadians and ChainedChaos, wow have I been spending a lot of time on those links.

I think the biggest mistake Canada made was to differentiate and report suspect vs probable cases. Anyone who has a cold and a fever can fit into the suspect category.

Contact with someone who has SARS and chest X-ray changes confirm a potential case from a suspect case. It is unfortunate but the world is considering anyone who has been to Toronto and later comes down with a cold as a suspect case. All 19 current potential SARS patients are in the hospital, no new cases in well past the 20 day period of safety.

Like Mike Myers said last night on the tonight show, the only way to get SARS in toronto is to break into a hospital, find the SARS ward and break into there and then kiss the patient. It is almost laughable how some people are being diagnosed with SARS just because they passed through Toronto.

Certainly everyone must stay on their guard, but really, a little intelligence must be used as well.

Just curious, toronto rn, why do you think it was a mistake? Should we not err on the side of caution in these situations?

Sorry I should have clarified that more- I think it was a mistake to report two categories of the disease. Really only potential cases need to be reported, suspect cases fall into such a broad category that the numbers are misleading.

Yes absolutely caution needs to take precident but there has to be some definite accountability on the behalf of the doctors at some point to say either this is SARS or it is not.

What I have heard in the news is the suspect case in Florida where the boy had previously travelled in the Toronto area, yet no one was quarantined except the boy. In Toronto any case like that would have required all contacts to be quarantined for 10 days, so is it or isn't it a suspect case? Another case in Finland where a man had been through Toronto and then became ill. He was admitted to the hospital in Finland with a diagnosis of SARS- there was no cases in the community in Toronto for him to be in contact with, yet they are adament that he contracted SARS from exposure in Toronto. (the person he was sitting in front of on the plane was ill- not SARS though)

Sars and suspect cases should be treated either the same--with quarantine and treatment--or not label suspect cases at all.

I guess the trouble is that until a definitive diagnostic test (that is accurate) is availible, erring on the side of caution should be universal- with appropriate quarantine not just a label of suspect.

I remember seeing a graph that listed suspected cases, probable cases and confirmed cases. Unfortunately I found that confusing as to what the difference between a suspected case and a probable case might be. Perhaps Canada was trying to simplify things by lumping them together.

Simplyfying is what got us on the WHO list. Every person with those symptoms without a diagnsis was a suspect case. I had a cold, with the normal cough and muscle aches from painting. I am sure if I flew into Finland they would want to declare me a SARS case and put me in isolation, nevermind the fact I haven't had any contact with any SARS patients.

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