Published Dec 25, 2008
MYRN2016
45 Posts
Hi:
I am currently working as a Administrator of an Assisted Living Facility. I've just been recently promoted to a facility that is undergoing a 40 million dollar expansion, which will include a brand new state of the art Alzheimer's and Dementia Care neighborhood.
Over the last year, I've noticed the caliber of CNA's has declined considerably. I worked as a CNA Instructor and I was appalled by the course structure, lack of supplies, books and uniforms. This school was charging almost 1000 for a CNA/PCT certification. I am now being faced with new CNA's who only provide care as keeping a resident, clean, fed, dry and up. No, ideals on socialization or person centered care.
I am an LPN and understand that I might have to partner with an RN, and also take the Train the Trainer Course sponsored by Georgia Community Health Portal.
My question/s is this:
1. Does anyone know the number or link to find out about the next Train the Trainer Course at GACHP?
2. Is an RN Licensure needed to start a CNA training program?
3. Has anyone come across any refrence guides, how-to programs on starting a CNA/PCT training program?
4. Does anyone on this board have experience and wouldn't mind sharing on how to get started?
5. Does anyone know how to receive payment from Welfare to Work progams, if their participants attend?
I also thought with the economy, this would be an excellent alternative to retrain individuals in a rewarding career, which could act as a stepping stone to other healthcare careers.
Thanks for your time and Happy Holidays to you!!!
Liberum Vir
24 Posts
I honestly cannot definitively answer any of your question. I can however note that all of the instructors of colleges or schools I have looked into have been R.N. M.S.N. Most schools are going to require at least a masters. Now I don't know about what the requirements would be to be able to certify people. I would look into state or national cert boards for information on that.
I wish you best of luck in your endeavors and I am interested to see if anyone else brings any constructive information.
LV
zoeyzoe
147 Posts
You do not have to be an RN, to start a cna training program.
Ms LaPetiteBijou, do you work for Lenbrook?
sharon5
4 Posts
Hello:)
Q#1: 1. What types of training programs are approved in the State of Georgia?
Approved Nurse Aide Training and Competency Evaluation Programs are conducted in High Schools, Technical Colleges, Nursing Homes and Private Post Secondary Schools.
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2. What general guidelines are required for Approved Nurse Aide Training Programs?
Each program must be a minimum of 85 hours in length. This includes classroom/laboratory plus clinical experience in a long-term care facility.
3. Are there any special requirements for programs conducted by a nursing home facility?
Yes, the training of nurse aide students by a long-term care facility must be completed and certification obtained within four months (120 days) from the time the training was commenced.
Also, long term care facilities cannot charge a student nurse aide for any costs incurred during the training period, e.g. tuition, books, etc. Training cannot be conducted, nor can any other nurse aide training program permit clinical training if the facility is on ban. The term "ban" as applied to a facility indicates survey sanctions which may have included substandard care violation(s), as well as being assessed a civil money penalty of five thousand dollars ($5,000) or more. (Other sanctions may be included as well).
Approved instructors in a facility-based training program cannot test their own students for Certification. A state approved tester conducts testing. The list of State Approved Test Sites can be printed from the GHP website or obtained by calling the NAP.
4. What is the required content to be taught in a State Approved Nurse Aide Training Program?
The Federal Regulations for Nurse Aide Training, established by the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987 (OBRA) require the following content to be taught in a Nurse Aide Training Program:
PART I
At least a total of 16 hours of training in the following areas prior to any direct contact with a resident
A. Communication and Interpersonal Skills
B. Infection Control
C. Safety/Emergency Procedures, including the Heimlich maneuver
D. Promoting Residents' Independence
E. Respecting Residents' Rights
PART II
Basic Nursing Skills
A. Taking and Recording Vital Signs
B. Measuring and Recording Height and Weight
C. Caring for the Residents' Environment
D. Recognizing abnormal changes in body functioning and the importance of reporting such changes to a supervisor
E. Caring for residents when death is imminent
PART III
Personal Care Skills, including but not limited to
A. Bathing
B. Grooming, including mouth care
C. Dressing
D. Toileting
E. Assisting with eating and hydration
F. Proper feeding techniques
G. Skin Care
H. Transfers, Positioning, and Turning
PART IV
Mental Health and Social Service Needs
A. Modifying aide's behavior in response to residents' behavior
B. Awareness of developmental tasks associated with the aging process
C. How to respond to resident behavior
D. Allowing the resident to make personal choices, providing and reinforcing the resident's dignity.
PART V
Care of Cognitively Impaired Residents
A. Techniques for addressing the unique needs and behaviors of individual with dementia (Alzheimer's and others)
B. Communicating with cognitively impaired residents
C. Understanding the behavior of cognitively impaired residents
D. Methods of reducing the effects of cognitive impairments
PART VI
Basic Restorative Services
A. Training the resident in self care according to the resident's abilities
B. Use of assist devices in transferring, ambulation, eating, and dressing
C. Maintenance of range of motion
D. Proper turning and positioning in bed and chair
E. Bowel and bladder training
F. Care and use of prosthetic and orthotic devices
PART VII
Residents Rights
A. Providing privacy and maintenance of confidentiality
B. Promoting the residents' right to make personal choices to accommodate their needs
C. Giving assistance in resolving grievances and disputes
D. Providing needed assistance in getting to and participating in resident and family groups and other activities
E. Maintaining care and security of residents' personal possessions
F. Promoting the resident's right to be free from abuse, mistreatment, and neglect and the need to report any instances of such treatment to appropriate facility staff
G. Avoiding the need for restraints in accordance with current professional standards
Reference: Federal Register/Vol. 56, No.187, Subpart D, Sec. 483.152, (b), (1-7).
5. What are the requirements for instructors who teach in State Approved Nurse Aide Training Programs?
Each approved training program requires a Program Coordinator and Instructor(s). These individuals must be licensed nurses. Requirements and responsibilities of these individuals can be obtained from the Georgia Medical Care Foundation and are included in the Application for Approval of a State Approved Nurse Aide Training and Competency Evaluation Program Form.
The form can be completed on the GHP website or requested by calling the NAP. One aspect for instructor approval requires that the licensed nurse attend a Train-the-Trainer Workshop. The day and a half workshop covers the required Federal and State Regulations for CNA training and competency evaluation as well as providing knowledge about the principles of adult learning and education.
6. Once a Nurse Aide Training Program is approved, are there any additional requirements?
Yes, each program participates in a yearly on-site visit by a Registered Nurse. A review of training record files is conducted at this time to ensure that Federal and State Regulations for conducting a training program are maintained in accordance with the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987 (OBRA) . This federal legislation outlines the requirements for mandated nurse aide training programs.
Programs are required to apply for re-approval of their Nurse Aide Training Programs (NATP's) every two years. An Application for Re-Approval of a Nurse Aide Training and Competency Evaluation Program can be completed on the GHP website or requested by calling the NAP.
7. Where do I call to report allegations of fraud and abuse or misappropriation of funds?
If you wish to speak with staff and register a complaint against a nursing home, personal care home or hospital, please contact the Department of Human Resources, Office of Regulatory Services at (404) 657-5726 or (404) 657-5728 or toll free at (800) 878-6442.
If you wish to register a complaint against a home health agency please contact the Department of Human Resources, Office of Regulatory Services at (404) 657-5727 or toll free at (800) 326-0291
Top8. Where may I obtain further information related to certification, eligibility, training, train-the-trainer, or other questions?
To obtain further information please call (678) 527-3010 (local) or (800) 414-4358.
nomrahmar
1 Post
I am looking to talk to nurses that in business for themselves.
ourling
Hi Everyone!!
I have partnered with a RN and am interested in learning more about starting a school or partnering with others to share ideas and support. I am in the 678 area code. Please let me know if anyone else wants to share with a nebbie to the industry and networking.
I have an IT background and wanting to merge the two.
Thanks,
O.
Nursinginmyfuture
12 Posts
I think that this is a wonderful Idea I went to a private post secondary school in the decatur area it was horrible I paid all that money and got a little out of it because the instructor never taught before and instead of giving us more time in the lab he gave us more classroom time and I was not prepared for the skills portion of the exam so I never went to take my state certification. But now I'm going to try to take a review course to see if I can take my certification if you start this school it would be in your best interest to have a review class
Well, I was just on the Georgia Health Partnership website looking for some free CNA Training when I came across the FAQ's and I saw this phone number to call for questions on Train the Trainer certification and eligibility maybe they can help you with some more info. Here's the number (678)527-3010. I don't know if you can send messeges on this site but you know my login name is nursinginmyfuture send me a messege and let me know how things are going for you.
Good Luck and when you start that school can I be your first student???
ceegarcia
ok i have a ? i live in conyers ga and i moved here frm california and i want to become a rn but i have a daughter to support and i want to start small so is there any schools around here i can start attending?
KathrynGallo
Hi there... if you want to start working as CNA - many nursing homes will actually pay you while going through their CNA classes. Not sure at what level you wanted to start at in pursuing your RN. I did that, then worked full-time and went to school full-time to obtain my BSN; however, as a mother, I'm sure your time constraints will make it more difficult for you. Best of luck to you!!
ok thanks so much for the great advice..:)