Hostpitals no longer hiring for ADN?

[sauce'dough]

I received a call today from Arizona College to learn more about their nursing program. I only have 12 general education credits and am enrolled in a MA program from Pima that will have no transferable credits. The lady on the phone jumped right into earning a BSN claiming they do not have a wait list, it is a 3 year program and you will start from the bottom gen ed and end with BSN courses. She stated they are doing this because in 2020 hospitals and other facilities will no longer hire RN's with an associates?! Is this true!? The program she offered seemed amazing but the catch was it was $80,000.00 for the BSN. She said thats how much other BSN programs are...

I am not sure if I am doing this right but my plan was to earn my MA, gain experience in the medical field while earning my gen ed/ pre nursing classes (paying myself so I wont have so a lot of loans), applying for LPN or RN programs and then essentially work my way up to a MSN. Am I missing something? I was hoping once I obtain my RN or LPN I could begin practicing as a Nurse but she made it seem like all hope was gone for RNs/LPNs... My boyfriend claimed that she was just a school representative and that they get aid off of signing people up for school so some information may have been stretched or misleading but now I'm worried.

Does anyone have any insight on this? Will facilities really stop hiring for RN's with Associates and LPN's?

[Creese73]

ADN-BSN at Western Governors University in 18 months for 9,000 and change. Great program and support.

[chiromed0]

Boy..that's pricey...$80K for $60k job. Anyway, rural hospitals are hiring ADN's, for now, because most of the programs at junior/community colleges are associates degree programs. How are they going to support the local RN programs if they don't hire their graduates? It all works hand in hand. Also, let's face it the first two years teaches you more "what" to do as a nurse, then more about "when" and then in graduate school more about "why". But the what is what keeps things rolling along...the rest is academic or cerebral. Hospitals run on what, get certified/paid on appropriate when (compliance) and get notoriety on having more why people around (research, etc.). I just don't see it at this point but I do caution the idea that they will always hire ADN's is also false hope...the trend is NOT in that direction and some will hire ADN's ONLY if they are promise to start/finish a BSN in 2 years. So bite the bullet and get the BSN in the near future and avoid the headaches.

[m1lkofamnesia]

I would say it depends on where you are...where I was working in ICU, they were hiring only BSN prepared nurses when I started a few years ago. Nurses who are currently working there have to have their BSN by 2018 (they were given notice many years ago that it would be required to stay employed). If you could find a cheaper BSN program, I'd say go for that. $80k is a bit excessive!

[RN3909]

It won't be mandated by 2020 for bsn, however it is highly likely that majority will require it. They will just pick a bsn candidate over your adn. I'm in Massachusetts and we have very few hospitals that hire with an ADN and they only will hire if your enrolled in BSN program.

Coming from and LPN (then getting RN) do not waiste your time and money by doing medical assistant or LPN. You will gain general medical knowledge but nothing remotely close as what you need for hospital nursing. I personally think 80k is reasonable for bsn. You figure that's about 20k a year for a regular 4 year Bach program, and 20k a year is very cheap for a university. I recommend doing the 3 year BSN course and if you want some experience, work as a CNA while in school and pick the RNs brains while your there!!! Good luck!

[jmaine]

First, ADNs will be accepted after 2020. IOM is asking that 80% of nurses hold a BSN or higher by 2020. Second, that is WAY too much money for a BSN degree. Pima Community College offers an ADN for approximately 9.5K. You can enroll in a concurrent enrollment program with either NAU or ASU for an additional 20K. The concurrent enrollment program will grant you both an ADN and BSN at the end of the 2 year program. Or you could do the ADN first and complete your BSN with an RN-to-BSN program online in about 18 months from numerous schools for approximately 20k. The nice thing about doing the RN-to-BSN program is many hospitals offer tuition assistance for nurses. I would skip the MA route and start with CNA. This is in the nursing track and will count towards your RN degree later. MA will not count towards a nursing degree. I work for PCC as a full time faculty and advisor. If you have questions, let me know. I started with my ADN and worked my way up the ladder. Now I am working on my doctorate.

[jmaine]

Arizona has such a nursing shortage that we cannot exclude ADNs when hiring. Two semesters ago (Spring 2016) graduates were all hired by one hospital here in town. Literally, the hospital called our ADN program and asked how many graduates we had and said "we will take them all." We have had 100% hire rate for years for our graduates.

[Allycat33]

Dear Heavens! Please DO NOT pay $80K for a BSN! That's absurd! And while the recommendation is to have more BSN nurses in hospitals by 2020, it's not the only way to get a job. All of my friends that had ADN's last year were hired without issue, however, I would recommend just go and get that BSN! Maricopa colleges have very affordable programs and partner with schools like NAU and ASU so you can graduate with your ADN and BSN at the same time- which is what I did. It was just under 20K for the whole program.

[Jodell77]

I live in Washington State. The expectation is quite opposite here as the 2 main schools for nursing in our area are ADN school. Hospitals are most definitely hiring ADN RNs into our new grad residency program and part of the sign on contract requires that you start a BSN program within a year of hire I believe. Our local university has a 1 year RN to BSN program that many new grad ADN RNs choose to do. Western Governors University is also a very affordable RN to BSN or RN to MSN program that many RNs choose as well. Going the ADN route first is so much more affordable as you can then work full time with an RN salary to be able to afford your BSN schooling.

[Pdivon76]

Well in Philadelphia you cant work for the top 5 health systems without a BSN. .and i believe in NY its the same...so thats alot of work that your already excluded from the door

Work for a facility that has a school of nursing or that will pay for you to go back to school

I have 2 semesters left for my BSN and im using my jobs tuition reimbursement

[BrandyLauffReynolds]

Depending upon which state you live in and your state BON, some states will require all RNs to have a BSN by 2020 in order to practice.

[KelRN215, BSN, RN]

While I agree that the school that called you seems kinda sketchy- $80K for a 4 year traditional BSN would be a bargain in my neck of the woods. My University degree cost much more than that (tuition, fees and room and board were $33K when I started and $45K when I graduated 10 years ago) and annual costs at the same school are over $70K for the next year, they'll be close to $80K by the time incoming freshmen graduate. I just Googled the costs for the state universities and a 4 year degree plus room and board would be over $80K even for an in-state student. Tuition and fees $14K plus another $12K for room and board.

[ImLovingIt]

$80K is way too much. I completed my ADN from a community college for less than $15K (I think it was less than $10K) and then got my BSN from WGU for less than $3500.

Also, I looked up Arizona College. The BSN program is new and currently unaccredited. Do not spend $80k at an unaccredited school!!!