Holistic Nurses, what are your thoughts on GMO's

Hex, LPN · Aug 21, 2016

GMO's are toxic and YES "Hex" there have been studies done to prove this. You won't see them in the US. Why you ask? Because the main distributor of GMO and the co product Round Up are part of the revolving door we call our government. I've read some of your other posts and it is apparent you fell for the PR stunt that big pharma and other corporations recently put out. You know the one right? The one where they get all their brainwashed sheep to spout off ridiculous statements that anything that might conflict with their agenda ie.. selling pills, patenting seeds, selling pesticides..etc, etc.. to say.. "you are anti science" only "science based XYZ is credible". I wish you could hear yourselves and how uneducated you sound. Biology is science, as is how food reacts in the human body. This is basic stuff actually but regardless... You defend GMO's because you are one of the sheep that lost your ability to think for yourself and instead parrot whatever mainstream bought and paid for media site told you to.
Honestly if anyone want to know if GMO's are safe simply research the history of the company providing them and the riders they have paid off senators to slip into our farm bills last minute. You know, they go something like this. " Monsanto cannot now or in the future be held responsible for any consumers illness including death if it is ever proven that their product is the cause.. furthermore, no governing entity can force them to remove said product from shelves". Oh and just for fun let's throw in the BILLIONS of dollars they spend to avoid labeling their poison so people are forced to consume them. Banned in 55 and counting countries and labeled in a dozen others.. Yea, Hex. They are totally trust worthy. Eat up. After all, scientists cant be paid off to write articles for their employers! OH wait,. you mean scientists are people too? They have bills to pay too? They can actually be bribed like the rest of mere mortals? You know science has done some incredible things but just because something CAN be done, doesn't mean it should be. Bad science is bad science.
Id like to add. We are not over populated. We throw out enough food in this country to feed other countries! Food is not whats in shortage, money is! People can't afford food. The lie Monsanto spread about GMOs being more affordable turned out to be FALSE. The lie that GMOs produce higher yields then organic versions again.. FALSE! I could go on and on..

Holy long-windedness, Batman. So.many logical fallacies, so little time.

dinah77, ADN · Aug 21, 2016

Hey Hex do you think we have BINGO yet ?

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JustMeRN · Aug 23, 2016

He's and Dinah77 I love you!

Gmos are are safe. Organic is a scam. If you want to argue otherwise please provide support in the way of links to peer reviewed studies.

dinah77, ADN · Aug 23, 2016

He's and Dinah77 I love you!
Gmos are are safe. Organic is a scam. If you want to argue otherwise please provide support in the way of links to peer reviewed studies.

Aww, back atcha! Those of us who understand how to look at data and make decisions accordingly gotta stick together

I am appalled and ashamed at some of our colleagues on here who apparently do neither

Organic is a total scam- not only they do use pesticides, several are more toxic on the LD-50 scale than roundup, the pesticide anti-science types love to demonize

Nashvillejeanne · Aug 23, 2016

Actually, as an organic farmer I would whole heartedly disagree...but you go right ahead and eat your processed, GMO laced food and I will be glad to provide hospice services down the road....Enjoy your snarky attitudes, really? I am proud that most of what my family eats we grow ourselves...we plant together, pick together, can together. Our neighbors pitch in....we grow a community garden. Eat good food or take medicine later. You are on a holistic thread, right? Or, do you just enjoy insulting what you don't agree with. Peace...

Do check out the study done in 2012:

Food and Chemical Toxicology is a peer-reviewed scientific journal covering aspects of food safety, chemical safety, and other aspects of consumer product safety. It is published by Elsevier and was established in 1963. The editor-in-chief is JosÃ© L. Domingo.^[

JustMeRN · Aug 23, 2016

Actually, as an organic farmer I would whole heartedly disagree...but you go right ahead and eat your processed, GMO laced food and I will be glad to provide hospice services down the road....Enjoy your snarky attitudes, really? I am proud that most of what my family eats we grow ourselves...we plant together, pick together, can together. Our neighbors pitch in....we grow a community garden. Eat good food or take medicine later. You are on a holistic thread, right? Or, do you just enjoy insulting what you don't agree with. Peace...
Do check out the study done in 2012:
Food and Chemical Toxicology is a peer-reviewed scientific journal covering aspects of food safety, chemical safety, and other aspects of consumer product safety. It is published by Elsevier and was established in 1963. The editor-in-chief is JosÃ© L. Domingo.^[

Can you please link to a specific study that proves organic foods are healthier or safer than traditional foods?

its great that you grow your own foods. But, that is not an option most people have. I prefer to buy locally grown when I can, but don't live in a climate that allows it all year long. Growing up we gardened and canned and our freezer was full of chicken and beef grown by us. That is something I don't have the luxury of doing in my current situation. And growing your own produce and preserving it is cost prohibitive. Same for livestock.

So, again, actual proof that your attitude of superiority about what you eat is anything more than an opinion?

dinah77, ADN · Aug 23, 2016

Actually, as an organic farmer I would whole heartedly disagree...but you go right ahead and eat your processed, GMO laced food and I will be glad to provide hospice services down the road....Enjoy your snarky attitudes, really? I am proud that most of what my family eats we grow ourselves...we plant together, pick together, can together. Our neighbors pitch in....we grow a community garden. Eat good food or take medicine later. You are on a holistic thread, right? Or, do you just enjoy insulting what you don't agree with. Peace...
Do check out the study done in 2012:
Food and Chemical Toxicology is a peer-reviewed scientific journal covering aspects of food safety, chemical safety, and other aspects of consumer product safety. It is published by Elsevier and was established in 1963. The editor-in-chief is JosÃ© L. Domingo.^[

Oh my. A community garden does NOT make you a farmer. It makes you a gardner. Hardly the same thing as trying to manage a couple of hundred acres as your primary livelihood and profession.

that's insulting to real farmers on par with a CNA claiming to be a nurse. :banhappy:

dinah77, ADN · Aug 23, 2016

Also your link for your supposed evidence is not working. So as it stands now your claims are still unsubstantiated

Nashvillejeanne · Aug 24, 2016

I am a "real farmer" and run a 50 acre CSA. Five acres are set aside as a community garden. We are a small community and it helps to set aside for those in need. It is a u pick area. Right now we are planting for the fall...

I also raise range free chickens, Boer meat goats, Nubian milk goats, beekeeping/honey and am considering some sheep for the spring. So....yes, I would consider myself a "real" farmer. Frankly, I work my ass off.

We also self sustain...but I am sure you think that is bogus as well. The classes I give fill up quickly so apparently some folks do seem interested in subjects such as composting, aquaponics ....( It is possible to feed a family of four on a very small aquaponics set up with fresh veggies and fresh fish all year long) , soap making, canning, beekeeping etc...I have fun, the family enjoys it, we get to work together. We also do classes on aromatherapy and I have speakers come in on subjects related to herbal therapy, home remedy's. I live close to an Amish community so they come and partner for classes on lots of different subjects.

BTW: I do not think I have ever met a more judgmental group of people than on this thread, heaven forbid someone have a differing opinion, seriously. You know, I would definitely rather eat chemicals, than organically grown food.....right? Ya'll are definitely not from the South.

JustMeRN · Aug 25, 2016

I am a "real farmer" and run a 50 acre CSA. Five acres are set aside as a community garden. We are a small community and it helps to set aside for those in need. It is a u pick area. Right now we are planting for the fall...
I also raise range free chickens, Boer meat goats, Nubian milk goats, beekeeping/honey and am considering some sheep for the spring. So....yes, I would consider myself a "real" farmer. Frankly, I work my ass off.
We also self sustain...but I am sure you think that is bogus as well. The classes I give fill up quickly so apparently some folks do seem interested in subjects such as composting, aquaponics ....( It is possible to feed a family of four on a very small aquaponics set up with fresh veggies and fresh fish all year long) , soap making, canning, beekeeping etc...I have fun, the family enjoys it, we get to work together. We also do classes on aromatherapy and I have speakers come in on subjects related to herbal therapy, home remedy's. I live close to an Amish community so they come and partner for classes on lots of different subjects.
BTW: I do not think I have ever met a more judgmental group of people than on this thread, heaven forbid someone have a differing opinion, seriously. You know, I would definitely rather eat chemicals, than organically grown food.....right? Ya'll are definitely not from the South.

I love how we are all judgmental, but you are the only one calling names.

You do realize everything you eat and drink is a chemical, Right? So you comment is rather silly.

The problem is not with people who choose to farm and self sustain. The problem is with the aggressive tactics used to promote "organic" and demonize gmo crops. The aggressive marketing makes people who can barely afford to feed their families feel bad and inferior because they can't feed their families organic. The problem is comments like yours above stating we can eat all the gmo's we want and you will take care of us when we need hospice (would you say the same thing to a struggling parent when can't afford organic food in reference to their child's health?). The problem is there is absolutely no evidence to support assertations that organic is better or safer. None. And organic is much, much more expensive with no benefit. People are being tricked. And gmo's are a marvel of modern farming. Period. To be able to create crops that can withstand drought, require less pesticides, be more nutritionally dense. These are all huge wins!

And your from the south comment, wow. Just wow. You need to check your holier than thou attitude!

Nashvillejeanne · Aug 28, 2016

I am so glad the Dept of Ag that certifies organic farms is putting us through the hoops we must jump through on a whim, without any evidence at all. Considering the fees, site visits and paperwork involved, it is not an easy process to go through. As far as pricing, it is much cheaper to buy CSA than from Whole Foods or other stores. We are very reasonably priced and we give away through our community garden as well. So, as a shrill for the big GMO guy, good try. I don't buy it....I will continue to eat organic, you can eat with ever you choose. See you later in hospice care. Best to you.

JustMeRN · Aug 28, 2016

I am so glad the Dept of Ag that certifies organic farms is putting us through the hoops we must jump through on a whim, without any evidence at all. Considering the fees, site visits and paperwork involved, it is not an easy process to go through. As far as pricing, it is much cheaper to buy CSA than from Whole Foods or other stores. We are very reasonably priced and we give away through our community garden as well. So, as a shrill for the big GMO guy, good try. I don't buy it....I will continue to eat organic, you can eat with ever you choose. See you later in hospice care. Best to you.

"See you later in hospice care." This is ridiculously nasty and uneccesary. The fact of the matter is that you can not support your claim of superiority of organic, so you get nasty and flounce. Perfect. If I ever have the need for hospice care it will not come from someone as judge mental and nasty as you, I can assure you.